Re: [SLE] SuSE 9.2 politics and installation questions

From: BandiPat (penguin0601_at_earthlink.net)
Date: 12/06/04

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Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 22:32:49 -0500

    On Sunday 05 December 2004 12:35 pm, matice@nic.fi wrote:
    > Hello,
    >
    > It has been a while since ive been on these mailling lists :)
    > now im back and once again im working with suse linux
    > deploying it production environment.
    >
    > I am a little bit worried with what possible and actual changes have
    > been implemented on SuSE distribution after the merge with Novell.
    >
    > at the momment i have a dell server 2300 (256mb/450mhz) that i want
    > to deploy. the issue is i can not deploy before i resolve several
    > questions. this is a an actual test run as i have several other other
    > production servers that i will be installing and deploying soon as
    > well.
    >
    > As for the general questions, I alike to many others am eager of
    > deploying SuSE 9.2. what worries me is now that novell is releasing
    > SuSE Enterprise 9:
    >
    ================
    Matice,
    You'll have to first decide what type of environment you plan on using
    your SuSE in when deciding what SuSE best suits your needs. If you are
    going to use it in a server farm that will require a high level of
    personal support, then your best choice may be SLES 9, but if you don't
    need that level of support, then of course, 9.2 should fit our needs
    well.
    -------------

    > 1- is SuSE/Novell going to deprecating the SuSE profesional
    > distribution line?
    > that is will 9.2 be missing installation packages, updates and
    > maintenance alike
    > to what its predecessing versions have experienced? this is a serious
    > question
    > as i will have to explain this to clients and explain the changes and
    > how it affects
    > the opensource position, availabity, flexibility, management and
    > support.
    >
    ==============
    If you are using the CDs only to install, then there are going to be
    some packages missing from the CDs. Over 1600+ packages in fact that
    are on the DVDs! If you are installing to a server, you might outfit
    the server with a DVD drive or copy from one of the other machines that
    has a DVD drive to the server to do a network install to your desires.
    Go to the SuSE site and investigate a bit about the level of support
    you get. 9.2 comes with the standard installation support and this
    mail list. If you want/need more, it will cost you more. SLES 9 comes
    with a full support package for a limited amount of machines. I forget
    the length of such support, 6 months, 1 year, not sure, check the SuSE
    site for more info. As with previous versions, I believe there is a
    standard 2 year life cycle, after which software update support ends.
    ------------

    > 2- which do you currently recommend to deploy into production 9.1 or
    > 9.2 and why?
    > is one supported more than the other? is 9.1 more stable than 9.2?
    > will 9.1 be supported
    > along with 9.2?
    >
    ===============
    I don't think there is any question about which version you want, as 9.2
    is very polished and well thought out.
    -----------------

    > 3- i installed 9.2 on a system and was surprised to notice that i
    > couldnt find the TRIPWIRE
    > package in the installation! is this a deprecation of the
    > distribution? forgotten package? or something else?
    ===========
    Again, if you installed via the CDs, then you are quite likely not going
    to find many things you would like or need. 1600+ between the DVD and
    CDs!
    -----------------

    > I have two cards that need to be integrated into my current system.
    >
    > 1- American Megatrends Series 428 REV-D1 , this is a SCSI raid card
    > that came with the dell
    > poweredge 2300 system. it would be nice to know how i can install the
    > system using this card so i can have hardware level raid instead of
    > software raid. why so? well software raid is still version 0.9XX and
    > will experience changes in the comming future where currently used
    > commands will not be supported in future kernels, this is a problem
    > as a linux system administrator, i need to be able to work using
    > stable tools and the ability to compile as well.
    > so any ideas on how i can install this card with my poweredge that
    > would be greatly appreciated!
    >
    ===========
    I've got a few thoughts on this question/concern, but I'll relinquish
    the floor to someone more knowledgeable with the SCSI interfaces. I
    don't think this is/should be a concern though.
    ----------

    > 2- since the poweredge system does not have any IDE interfaces, i
    > naturally need to add
    > an IDE pci card. luckily ive got an old one since who knows when that
    > i have not used and would like to install it on this system so i can
    > have some more drive space (with IDE, SCSI drives are expensive) the
    > IDE card is a WINBOND W83769F. so all hints would also be appreciated
    > as well :)
    >
    > 3- the Poweredge 2300 system that i am installing will be used for
    > lightweight multiple web and mail domains. which suse version do you
    > recomend to use at this point and why;9.1 or 9.2?
    >
    > hoping to get assistfull and quick replies
    > Regards
    > Matice
    ===============
    Check SuSE's hardware database for some of your questions, but I don't
    think you will find there are problems with your IDE interfaces. And
    again, I don't think there needs to be a discussion on the version, 9.2
    should fit your needs quite well or SLES 9. Depends on what level of
    support you need from SuSE.

    regards,
    Lee 

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