Re: [SLE] IP addressing

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Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 15:57:56 +1100
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Matice, James, Johan and others

Thanks for your time and effort last night - I went to bed before your
replies came in.

I think the best advice you gave me is to assign a fixed IP to the db
(SuSE) server. That is what I will do.

When I know more about alI this I'd like to restart this thread and ask you
how I can build a magic Linux box with a pre-installed dbms, Windows, Mac
and Linux application installers too; no screen, no keyboard and just a
blue cable. Maybe a power cable :) A true magic machine. But not yet.

You asked "why Firebird?" and my answer is that it is free, open source,
cross platform (Mac, Win, Linux, *nix). I will never again use proprietary
software to develop my applications. Doing so is a dead-end strategy. Much
safer and more relaxing to rely on the collective intelligence of a
community than the arbitrary decisions of CEOs who are driven by their
shareholders instead of their customers.

So that (only just) eliminates MySQL and I haven't looked at PostgreSQL. I
will be looking with interest at a recently announced new rdbms written in
pure Python.

Thanks heaps

Mike

At 12:20 am 12/12/2004, Johan Nielsen wrote:
>Can't your router assign IP's based on MAC-adress ??

At 04:32 am 12/12/2004, matice@nic.fi wrote:
>Hello,
>its always a good practice to have servers set with fixed static IP
>addresses, and this includes printers and other common resources that are
>shared across the network regardless of what type of realm is being used
>(nis, nt domain, or netware), if for some reason you want the servers,
>printers and whatever obtain their IP address through DHCP, you can still
>do that by configuring your dhcp deamon (service) to reserve particular IP
>addresses for given mac address, it is quiet simple and all you have to do
>is just check the examples in the manuals and use them.
>
>now in every network it is good to have only 1 dhcp server, if you have 2
>and each having a different configuration, you start running into troubles
>and the network client pcs will start to cough and get sick, and that
>wouldnt be nice especially during the comming xmass holidays.
>
>a simple clean setup in this case would be as the following:
>
>1- do not run DNS or dhcp on your novell (ofcourse you will have to run
>the basic DNS so that the directory would work)
>2- do not use your router as DHCP server, the reason for that is if it
>goes down for some reason well so will all the DHCP dependent pcs in the
>network.
>
>
>as for the installation figure well,
>NOVELL SEVER
>- DIRECTORY services
>- file and printing services
>- misc services (possibly intranet or whatever you may have there)
>- DNS service, since you have a novell system in your network, you are
>obliged to use the DNS from your novell system, (if you are not performing
>any sort of directory based fine grained network services, you do not need
>to use the DHCP service there, just use the one on the linux system)
>
>SuSE 9.1 server
>- Firebird DBMS (dunno why you want to use that one, there are many other
>options, mysql/postgress, etc)
>- DHCPd service (configure it to assign static IP address to the machines
>that require static ip addresses (for whatever reason)
>
>Router
>- do not run any services on it, just keep it simple and let it route and
>provide network statistics and perform the network security (firewall if
>it has that feature)
>
>Network printer
>- configure it with a static ip or to get a static ip from DHCP
>
>network PC clients
>- configure to get IP, DNS, gateway configurations
>
>
>
>DHCP service should provide the following
>
>IP ADDRESS POOL
>NETWORK MASK
>NETWORK GATEWAY
>POSSIBLY WINS SERVICE (pointing to novell)
>DNS (pointing to NOVELL)
>
>configure the DNS on your novell to point to your
>network services whereever they may be including printers.
>
>i might have mentioned half the things i wanted to say as i am writting
>this in between things :)
>
>regards
>Matice
>
>
>
>>Dear list
>>I want to use 9.1 SuSE with Firebird as a database server in a Novell 5.0
>>LAN with mixed Win98 and WinXP workstations. The DHCP derived addresses
>>for all machines (except maybe the file server) come from the DSL router.
>>My question is ...
>>1 Is it possible to name the machine and use the name instead of an
>>IP address for the dbms and let the router assign addresses as it sees
>>fit. If so, how do I do that?
>>2 If no, should I assign a fixed IP address forever? (don't know
>>how to do that)
>>The only way I know what the IP address happens to be is to restart and
>>watch closely the screen flies by as it gets assigned. The latest one
>>happens to be 192.168.0.11. I can ping it OK.
>>Thanks for any advice
>>Mike
>>
>>
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