Re: [SLE] 9.1 > 9.2 question

From: Joaquin Menchaca (linuxuser_at_finnovative.net)
Date: 12/31/04

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    Richard wrote:

    >On Wednesday 29 December 2004 01:13 pm, Joaquin Menchaca wrote:
    >
    >
    >>All I can say is that with so many bad experiences, I am very hesitant
    >>to purchase software without knowing that it is going to work.
    >>Unfortunately for SuSE, they don't seem to have a public evaluation
    >>system, nor are there distros for NON-COMMERCIAL usages.
    >>
    >>
    >
    >Joaquin, I dont know where you get your info, but there is no, and havent
    >been any, prohibition from SuSe about non-commercial usage. Someone is
    >flim-flaming you! Use it anywhere you want! Call it comercial or
    >non-commercial if you want, No one cares.
    >
    >
    My comment was about accessibility. Corporations have a back-door way
    of getting copies to users under the title of "non-commercial" usage.
    For legality purposes, the corporations are satisfied as users couldn't
    use the products legally, and for users standpoint, they get a copy
    without paying anything. Many times this helps with testing products,
    evals, student usage, training, etc., but assures companies pay realy
    money for products they use commercially.

    >SuSE Pro simply has more development stuff included on the cd/dvd's. Even
    >that is available for FREE, if you want to download it. Personally, I buy
    >the pro version cause I dont want to screw with more downloads. If you
    >use apt, you can get it all from a command line, again for FREE.
    >
    >Like others have been tryijng to tell you, YOU have a choice, pay for the
    >pro version or wait and download it for free or have someone else prepare
    >the cds for you for about 5 bucks. It;s all about choice. Choices you
    >dont get with other OS's.
    >
    >
    >>I liked it
    >>when one could download SuSE for free before, and I like it when
    >>companies like Oracle and Sun, and even Microsoft, have
    >>evaluation/non-commercial options to get at their software and try it.
    >>It many sales, especially enterprise, they have a POC phase, i.e.
    >>Proof-Of-Concept. I don't see why we can have some form of this, rather
    >>than just blindly pay, and find out later it doesn't work. :-(
    >>
    >>
    >
    >No one is requiring you to pay before you try, you just have to exert a
    >little effort to find the free version. Borrow it from a friend or
    >download it when it becomes available.
    >
    >
    Isn't borrowing it from a friend and installing it ILLEGAL? Maybe
    that's the thing in Europe, but I couldn't do this on a professional basis.

    >>Anyhow, combine with that and and users reporting problems, SuSE doesn't
    >>seem like a viable platform at this stage, or at least one cannot find
    >>out... :-)
    >>
    >>
    >
    >You cannot find out if you dont try. Have you ever found a new piece of
    >software that was perfect? In my 40 + years in this business, I haven't
    >and I surely dont expect to see it now. By mid Jan, when the freebie will
    >be on the mirrors, most of the original problems will be long solved, just
    >like the last update.
    >
    >
    Hi, thanks for your advice. I have located the downloadable eval from
    others posting, and I will give it a try. As I am interested in this
    stuff, I am strongly thinking of buying it. I'm not exactly unemployed,
    and I can afford the hit if the product doesn't work out.

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