[SLE] Incredibly SLOW BOOT!!! (Was: 150GB hard drives)

From: Patrik Dahl (patrik.dahl_at_myrealbox.com)
Date: 03/21/05

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    I have the same? problem on my system!

    Previously I had SuSE 9.0 and later 9.1 with an old Celeron 733, 256MB
    memory with an ASUS mainboard and a Crappy Promise ATA133 PCI (no raid)
    controller (avoid like plague) for the newer larger (136GB+) hard
    drives. In total I had 6 hard drives and the boot time was as fast as
    anything.

    Due to problems with the Promise PCI card and that the system was reallt
    slow (old) I decided to upgrade my hardware

    I bought an MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R (Don't ask me why I change from ASUS to
    MSI? I have always been pleased with ASUS!), AMD64 3000+, 1GB Memory,
    Nvidia 5700 etc
    Today I have 4 hard drives
    SATA (Boot): a 120GB ATA133 HDD with an ATA2SATA converter (works like a
    charm). I had the same problem with the system before bying this)
    ATA133: 3x200GB HDD (2x ATA133, and 1 pcs of ATA100/DVD Burner)
    All HDDs are connected to the connectors controlled by the via chips ,
    I'm not using the connectors controlled by the Promise Chip!

    I installed this system with SUSE 9.2, I have both tried 32 and 64 bit
    versions and at first it took 25-30 minutes to boot the system.
    I thought this was due to that I had created LVM1 volumes with SuSE 9.0.

    I removed LVM from all 200GB HDDs, by misstake I kept Reiserfs, my
    intention was to replace it by ext3 since reiserfs seem to be a bitch
    when you have problems. I'm still partly using LVM on the boot drive.

    This reduced my boot time from 25-30 minutes down to approx 15 minutes
    and this is what I have to endure now.

    I can't find any errormessage in the logfiles and as Robert Fitxpatrick
    says, it is just slow and It has to do with HDDs...
    During boot everything looks normal until the eth/wlan cards has been
    discovered, after that the system waits until it displays 'Replaying
    journal' or 'Checking internal tree' (I don't remember with message
    comes first) for two of the 200GB HDDs. At this stage the boot has taken
    approx 5 minutes.
    When the system continues and it is just slow on everything concering
    the HDDs during boot.

    When the system is up and running it is lightning fast and coping files
    between the hdds can reach 30-40MB /s sec. I don't see any problem here.

    I don't know if this is a valid test but I booted the SimplyMephis 3.3
    Live CD and after boot I clicked on each of the HDD icons It had created
    on the desktop (all HDDs and all LVM volumes) and I mounted all HDD/LVM
    volumes fast and without a problem. Booting Mephis and mounting the
    volumes to the time expected from a live CD, Much faster than it takes
    with the installed SuSE 9.2.

    If I could I would try to change one of the HDDs to ext3 but all HDDs
    are filled to the limit so I can't temporary move the data somewhere.
    Right now I have pre-ordered SuSE 9.3 and I hopes that it will solve
    this problem and the other I have with this setup.

    I would be very happy for suggestions!

    Best Regards
    Patrik

    Richard wrote:

    >On Sunday 20 March 2005 05:58 pm, Robert Fitzpatrick wrote:
    >
    >
    >>I am trying to install SuSE 9.2 on a machine with two brand new Maxtor
    >>150GB hard drives. I've tried both as Linux RAID, and each drive by
    >>itself. The install is fine, but every time the machine boots, it slows
    >>down during 'Replaying journal' and 'Checking internal tree'. Really
    >>slow. Takes the machine 5 minutes to boot up and every time, not just
    >>initial boot. The install finishes and reboots slow, then I just do
    >>shutdown and restart, same thing. I've tried different motherboards and
    >>cables to make sure the ATA133 is working for these drives. I loaded
    >>Windows XP and all is fine, good boot time. The machine is a Pentium 4
    >>3.2MHz (Northwood core, 512K cache) with 800MHz FSB, 512MB RAM.
    >>
    >>Is there something I should know or be able to debug further this
    >>problem booting in SuSE?
    >>
    >>
    >Robert, are you using Reiserfs? I have a similar situation on one of my
    >machines that began after I did an online upgrade via yast. Watching the
    >stuff scroll by, it looks as if it is doing a complete fsck of the reiser
    >partitions. I have no idea why it started that but sure will be watching
    >this thread to see if someone has an answer. I have also noticed that if
    >I do the Yast checkout of the system it finds -usually- a reiserfs
    >partition that has been corrupted.
    >
    >Since it appears you are doing some experimental installs, why dont you try
    >an install using ext3 or the JFS format and see if you have the same
    >problem. I've had a couple of machines which kept getting corrupted
    >reiserfs partitons until I changed to JFS and after a few weeks, no
    >problems.
    >
    >Just a suggestion. Best of luck,
    >Richard
    >
    > 

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