Re: [SLE] SuSE 9.3 x64 and SATA II raid

From: Angus Beath (abeath_at_gmail.com)
Date: 07/12/05

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    Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 11:21:51 +1000
    
    

    Mike

    RAID 1 is not *that* slow - unless you are doing massive file transfers
    continuously. For everyday use in a server, data transfer rates are fine
    using RAID 1. It's easy to configure, great redundancy and to recover is
    very straightforward - install the new disk, partition it and then add
    it to the array and it will rebuild itself. I use RAID1 in quite a few
    servers and do not see a noticeable performance decrease (even in a
    machine based around a Celeron 366). As to hardware RAID - I'd only
    really touch Adaptec stuff and even then only with SCSI disks - it's
    tried and true. Software RAID works great for Linux boxes.

    Angus

    On Mon, 2005-07-11 at 21:09 -0400, Michael A. Coan wrote:
    > Anders,
    >
    > > [stuff deleted]
    >
    > >> Windows 2003 is a supported guest of VMWare Wks 5.0. SuSE9.3 x64 is not
    > >> officially supported, but SLES 9 is and I have read of a number of
    > >> people successful running VMWare 5.0 on SUSE 9.3 x64.
    > >
    > > Yes, I can attest to that, it runs very nicely
    >
    > Thanks for the confirmation.
    >
    > >
    > >> Regarding RAID, from what I have read. I would not use the nvidia raid
    > >> included with the nforce4 boards, but use YAST to set up software raid.
    > >> My plan is to use RAID 0 (I know that means no redundancy) and then
    > >> use an additional hard drive for backing up the data files.
    > >
    > > RAID 0 is striping and will give you extra speed. But RAID 0 has the huge
    > > drawback if one drive fails, the whole thing comes crashing down, and
    > > you'll
    > > have to reinstall everything.
    >
    > I realize that. I guess my initial thought was tht it is very easy to
    > reinstall SuSE 9.3 (less than an hour). Since Windows server will be a
    > guest OS, it will only be 6 or 7 files, so I copy over the files in 10
    > minutes and it is reinstalled. I figured that the time saved by using RAID
    > 0 over say three years, would more than offset the time it takes to
    > reinstall. Maybe that is foolish.
    >
    > Maybe i should use a 3ware controller and do raid 5. this time I will
    > know what the beeping is :) Or would you recommend RAID 10 instead.
    >
    > >
    > >> i am not inclined to use raid 5. Our current server had raid 5 with a
    > >> Perc controller and 3 Ultra 160 SCSI drives. When one of the drives
    > >> failed the controller began beeping like crazy, but everything worked
    > >> Too bad i didn't know what the beeping meant. By the time I figured out
    > >> what the beeping meant, a second drive failed and I had to reinstall
    > >> Windows Small Business Server on the remaining drive.
    > >
    > > The value of reading manuals. If you had known what the beeping meant, you
    > > could have kept the machine running (bar perhaps for the time it takes to
    > > throw in a new drive, if the hardware doesn't support hotplugging). This
    > > is
    > > why people have redundancy. Their time costs more than the hardware
    >
    > My excuse is that someone else bought and installed the server, and since
    > it was a Windows machine I tried not to get involved too muh. My mistake,
    >
    > If SuSE 9.3 supports raid10 or raid 0+1 in software, then i suppose i
    > could just get 4 drives. I ahve heard that raid1 is fairly slow.
    >
    > Mike
    >
    > Michael A. Coan
    > Woodlawn Foundation
    > 524 North Avenue, Suite 203
    > New Rochelle, NY 10801-3410
    > Tel: 914-632-3778
    > Fax: 914-632-5502
    >
    >

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