Re: [SLE] Gnome for Suse 9.3 - Perspectives?

From: Sid Boyce (sboyce_at_blueyonder.co.uk)
Date: 07/31/05

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    James Ogley wrote:
    >>I've been tinkering around with Suse 9.3 for a few days, and I'm
    >>really impressed overall. I'd like to understand YAST a bit more (do
    >>gconf and YAST get along?),
    >
    >
    > Well, YaST is your system config tool, and GConf handles personal GNOME
    > settings, it's like asking what the result of the last New York Yankees
    > vs Manchester United match was.
    >
    >
    >>implement apt-get,
    >
    >
    > ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/SuSE/9.3-i386/RPMS.suser-rbos/
    >
    >
    >>improve or customize the Gnome desktop.
    >
    >
    > GNOME is 9.3 pretty well rocks hard, I think the quality of SuSE's GNOME
    > install this time around is borne out by the small number of packages
    > I've had to replace - the only replacement rather than new package or
    > upgrade is gnome-session, and that was to sort out the braindead
    > hard-coding of starting suseplugger and susewatcher at login.
    >
    >
    >>Novell is really interested in delivering a solid
    >>product rather than using it as an experimental launching pad for
    >>another product.
    >
    >
    > Well, I'm currently downloading SuSE's 2.11.x packages, and prior to
    > that I had no problem in building the latest GARNOME release, which is
    > pretty forward looking. But, you talk as if being stable and solid is a
    > bad thing. I bet that the packagers of these packages will have been as
    > rigorous about them as any other, even though they are stated to be beta
    > code.
    >
    >
    >>When I began using Suse 9.3, I was a little disappointed by Suse's
    >>implementation of Gnome. It "appears" that much effort has gone into
    >>KDE (and it shows), but less into Gnome.
    >
    >
    > If you knew the sheer number of SuSE-specific patches, you wouldn't say
    > that. Also, there's a very good reason why the default Panel
    > configuration (for example) broadly matches the default GNOME one, and
    > that's that the GNOME team have got it right.
    >
    >
    >>Anyway, back to the point of this email. I obviously can customize my
    >>Gnome desktop, but before I continue to do so, I'd like to hear from
    >>other Suse Gnome users out there who can give me their impressions
    >>about working with Gnome in Suse? I'd be interested in hearing any
    >>perspectives about Gnome/Suse that you may have.
    >
    >
    > Find out what the community at large thinks on a number of issues, as
    > well as finding handy links to things you might find helpful at
    > http://planetsuse.org
    >
    > James, your friendly neighbourhood SuSE-GNOME hero.

    James, perhaps you can enlighten me, but here are some problems I've
    noted with GNOME and I'm not alone.
    You see the latest versiom of a Gnome app, it calls for a number of
    co-reqs/pre-reqs. You try to install the pre-reqs, it calls recursively
    for others, you finally get them all installed and you break other apps.
    Your new app (many many ages ago - gnomemeeting and gimp) doesn't work
    correctly or fails to start. I don't know if this is a thing of the past
    as recent versions of gimp have not needed any other upgrades.
    I tried building garnome for about a year, gave up about a year ago,
    never got a successful build.
    Do you have to perform major surgery when some new apps appear or is it
    more predictable now?
    Regards
    Sid.

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