Re: [SLE] Just installed 9.3 and having some problems with video card and monitor -- any ideas?

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Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 17:51:01 -0400

On Thursday 11 August 2005 12:16 am, Gil Weber wrote:

> Lee, thanks for the help. I really do appreciate it. But things are
> not going well here. Sorry for the length of this reply and the
> multiple rants contained in it.
>
> I do not know what a SuSE Eval disk is. Is that a disk I need to make
> myself? Is it included with the 9.3 disks? I know nothing about an
> Eval disk or how to use it.
>***************

Here is your location for the Eval DVD iso:
ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/linux/suse/ftp.suse.com/suse/i386/live-dvd-9.3
That should provide you a little better test on hardware you want to run
SuSE on as well as helpful diagnostic disc when needed.
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> I have not tried sax2 -r or sax2 -l.
>
> I have not moved, renamed, or deleted graphics files since I don't
> know what specifically I should be looking for. Several folks on the
> list have been kind enough to post things for me to look at -- for
> example looking to see if my monitor is identified by name or is
> listed as generic.
>
> But on my own I don't know what to look for, and I would not know
> good from possibly corrupted info if I knew where to look.
>*************

Your config files will be located here:
/etc/X11
You may have both a XF86Config and/or a xorg.conf, but one may be a link
to the other only. Rename or remove those to start fresh. Many times
if the video card is not behaving or acting a bit cranky, it won't
retrieve the correct info from the monitor. Some older monitors may
not have any info to retrieve. It's easy enough to change the specs
when you setup the thing in sax2.
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> So I go along very, very slowly. Sorry, I really am trying to grasp
> all of this. But it's just not happening for me.
>
> I have done 5 clean installs of 9.3 over the past few days. That
> hasn't helped, and it's probably been wasted effort, but everyone
> seems to be saying that I have residual problems left behind. I don't
> know how that can be after a clean install, but doing a clean install
> is all I know to do since I assume (???) that it should clean any
> residual problems during the process. Apparently that is not the case
> as I am still having the same problems with 2 video cards that
> everyone thinks should work.
>===========

Gil, this may be something to be concerned about. Since you posted that
the motherboard is Intel with onboard graphics, it stirred a memory. I
had a used machine come thru the shop once which I tried to install a
PCI card in also. The motherboard was Intel with onboard video &
shared memory. I could get a screen from a PCI graphics, but as far as
getting it to work reliably, no! I never explored it further, but it
may be an inherent problem with Intel motherboards and onboard
graphics. Onboard graphics worked fine, but nothing else. Maybe
someone else can elaborate on their experiences. The other machine I
mentioned that had the Voodoo3 pci card has onboard video, but it's VIA
& Sirge3 graphics & chipset. It works.
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> At the same time I am also trying to figure out why my video clips
> (.wmv, .mpg. mov. .avi etc) won't play, or won't play with sound.
> Everything worked perfectly in 9.2 but now it's all gone into the
> toilet. And video clips that previously played from Firefox no longer
> play.
>
> Previously I had kaffeine, mplayer, totem, and xine loaded and
> working. Now, none of them seem to be working properly.
>===========

Ok, clarify for us, is this using the onboard video setup or PCI with
just VESA setup? This may just be a matter of you playing with it so
much everything has gotten completely out of sync. Decide which player
you would prefer and stick with setting it up, leaving the other alone.
I know if you have both the mplayer plugin & kaffiene plugin installed,
you are going to have problems as they'll conflict.
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[...]
> More problems.... I tried to swap the floppy drive for another that
> was supposed to have better access speed, but the new floppy did not
> work. Could not get 9.3 to recognize it. I have no idea why.
>
> And when I put the original one back in the pooter now that one is
> not working. When I right click on the floppy icon I notice that
> under properties/ownership **nothing** is listed. User is blank and
> group is blank. How can that be?
>***********

This could be as someone else mentioned, a cable inserted incorrectly or
not fully. Different makers of drives sometimes switch pin one on the
connector, so be sure of that. You could have damaged the cable
swapping. Is the power connected good. Do you have the floppy check
turned on in the BIOS when it boots? Do you see the light come, hear
the heads move when you turn the computer on?
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[...]
> So it's one thing after another with this 9.3 install. It's been an
> absolute disaster -- the worst upgrade ever, and we've purchased
> every release of SuSE starting with 7.0.
>
> And through all of this I am trying to work and have a life.
>
> Sorry for the rant.
>
> Seriously discouraged. :o(
> Gil
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Certainly, we all understand how the frustration can get the best of you
when having problems of this nature. Sometimes it's best to step away
for a while and come back later too! You'll get a fresh outlook, if
you can put it out of your mind for a while. I had to do that once
trying to get an nVidia card to work with those stupid drivers. I've
not had a lot of dealings with e-Machine, but I do always try to stay
away from onboard graphics and Intel chipsets. Can't say that is
contributing to your problems, but I have my suspicions from past
experience. Just take baby steps and keep track of the things you try.
The solution may not be the one you hoped for, but at least you'll know
why.

regards,
Lee

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