Re: [SLE] KDE updates 10.1

On 31/05/06 08:55, Stephan Binner wrote:
On Wednesday, 31. May 2006 15:25, Peter Van Lone wrote:


to know "what are you thinking". I agree that this mailing list is not
the case to document how you come to your decision, but communication

yes! Keep us informed.


Again, this "user support users" mailing list is the wrong place for what
you're looking for. Development happens over at openSUSE site/lists/IRC.

Respectfully disagreed, Stephan. *This* is the place for discussions of
released versions. We are not speaking here of developing anything, we
are speaking only of support for a *released* version of SuSELinux.

When support for 9.1 was discontinued, the announcement was made here,
not even in suse-announce-* where I would have expected it to be made.
Similarly, when you make a massive changes to the structure of your
support/update tree, you cannot expect anyone here to know about it
unless you announce it here.

Do you really expect that someone who is not interested in the
development side should subscribe to even one development mailing list,
just so he can (maybe) learn about such things? Should I put a client
into your IRC channel full-time, just so I can (maybe) learn something
about your plans for supporting a *released* version? The opensuse-*
mailing lists are for development only (at least, if I can trust what it
says on the opensuse website), and I am not interested in all that stuff
-- so I do not subscribe.

But now you tell me that to learn the kind of information that is being
discussed in this thread, maybe I will have to do all of those things,
and more. You go on to speak of reading blogs and bug reports as if the
people on this list have nothing better to do than wade through massive
volumes of irrelevant material, just to learn about something that will
seriously impact how we try to resolve each others' problems.

Joachim summarized the entire issue very well in his post, to which you
have not replied:

If you follow this mailing list, there is a dire need to know "what
are you thinking". I agree that this mailing list is not the case to
document how you come to your decision, but communication about the
outcome of the decision process of updating would be advantagous.
When you tell us that we should be following the development side of
things just to learn such things, you are asking the impossible, if for
no other reason than few, if any, of us have the time to read through
all that (to us) irrelevant information, just to learn the occasional
useful tidbit.



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