Re: [SLE] Re: Smart stuff

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On Wed October 4 2006 11:46, Curtis Rey wrote:
On Wed October 4 2006 10:52, Sunny wrote:
The end point is, that IMHO the combination Ximian/Suse is not good
for anybody, while every one of them by itself is pretty good in all
technical aspects. But looks like too much politics are involved, and
in the end of the day both projects may be harmed very bad, which is
not good for us as users.

Case in point:

! java-1_5_0-sun 1.5.0_03-2 conflict
required by:
java-1_5_0-sun-src requires java-1_5_0-sun = 1.5.0_03-2
java-1_5_0-sun-alsa requires java-1_5_0-sun = 1.5.0_03-2
java-1_5_0-sun-alsa requires java-1_5_0-sun = 1.5.0_03-2
java-1_5_0-sun-demo requires java-1_5_0-sun = 1.5.0_03-2
java-1_5_0-sun-demo requires java-1_5_0-sun = 1.5.0_03-2
java-1_5_0-sun-devel requires java-1_5_0-sun = 1.5.0_03-2
java-1_5_0-sun-devel requires java-1_5_0-sun = 1.5.0_03-2
java-1_5_0-sun-jdbc requires java-1_5_0-sun = 1.5.0_03-2
java-1_5_0-sun-jdbc requires java-1_5_0-sun = 1.5.0_03-2
java-1_5_0-sun-plugin requires java-1_5_0-sun = 1.5.0_03-2
java-1_5_0-sun-plugin requires java-1_5_0-sun = 1.5.0_03-2

Conflict Resolution:
Downgrade java-1_5_0-sun-1.5.0_07-1.1 to Version 1.5.0-03-2
Remove all 6 referring Packages
Delete java-1_5_0-sun-alsa
Delete java-1_5_0-sun-demo
Delete java-1_5_0-sun-devel
Delete java-1_5_0-sun-jdbc
Delete java-1_5_0-sun-plugin
Delete java-1_5_0-sun-src
Ignore Conflict and Risk System Inconsistencies

(the last line is a bit funny - since now my sys is full of inconsistencies -
Not of my own doing!).

Yast presents a long and specific list for all the java packages - so what's
the problem? Well the update it complains about were install via YOU as a
security update and the original java packages were install VIA Yast repos
from Open SuSE - so these are supposed to be officially stable/sanctioned
packages.

I'll tell what I bet will happen - I downgrade/remove the "offending"
packages. Then I'll fire up YOU and it will tell me there's a bunch of
security updates for ... you guessed it - Java 1.5! So I'll allow YOU to dl
and install these security updates. Next I'll fire up YaST sw_single to
install packages and the aforementioned dependency warning will pop up
complaining about ... You guessed it - Inconsistencies with the currently
installed version of..... Java 1.5 (which was installed by YOU). So "You"
will inform me about security updates to Java 1.5, I'll install them. Then
YaST sw_single will complain about dependency inconsistencies and I'll have
to choose between Ignoring it or trying to fix the dependency issue. If I
try to fix the dependency issue I'll essentially be caught in a loop between
YOU packages and YaST2 dependency conflicts. If I ignore it then I could be
setting myself actual kludgy behavior, and seeing that I'm presently enrolled
in a Java programing class and using Eclipse - I would like to avoid Java
issue in order to keep clear what is my syntax/logic errors and what is
caused by Package/code inconsistencies.

I realize the OpenSuSE is essentially a beta devel platform (and this is the
first time I "haven't paid for a box set - obviously a prudent move). But it
shouldn't be bleed edge so much that it breaks like a Beta - that's what the
Beta program is for!


Meanwhile I'm trying to get work done (aka do my assignments) and not having a
lot of luck!

Cheers, Curtis :/



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