[opensuse] Linus loves GPL v2 ---- and is not on a crusade
- From: "Peter Van Lone" <petervl@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 22:22:12 -0500
The article linked below is titled "Why I 'Absolutely Love' GPL
Version 2" --- and the interview is why I absolutely love Linus
I have long been troubled by some aspects of the angst and anger
around Novell when they first purchased Suse, and especially since the
fateful "Novell/Microsoft" deal.
It just seems to me that there is a kind of religious intensity that
is out of place -- the world is destined to have both F/OSS and
proprietary (closed source) software. There has to be a mechanism for
allowing these two approaches to software development and licensing,
to co-exist peacefully. To "interoperate" to all of our advantage.
Personally, I want the influence of linux to grow, and that of
Microsoft to diminish. I want to see linux become the predominate (or,
most influential) desktop OS. I believe that in order to become an
order of magnatude more influential than it is currently (especially
on the desktop) that it will have to penetrate both the corp and home
user worlds. This won't happen without some changes --- changes that
are resisted by stallwarts "in the community".
I understand the outrage of the FSF people concerning what they see as
Novell essentially "giving into" greivous thuggary in the form of
Microsoft's patent and other bullying. Richard Stallman and Bruce
Perens (both titans and honorable people) are emphatic in their belief
that proprietary software and software patents are .... just wrong
headed and ... plain wrong.
But while I "get" the Cathedral and the Bazarre and I accept that for
many projects and in many ways, an OPEN model of development is just
better and makes more sense ... while I
"get that", I also accept and understand that proprietary software
itself is not "evil".
I have never been able to accept "true believers and beliefs" in
anything. I think everything, --- and particularly things like
commerce and trading and human organizations and belief systems and
governments and legal systems and contracts and .... --- are
necessarily colored in shades of grey.
And I also -- though this is harder to swallow and even to say --
don't think that Microsoft itself is "evil". I think, often wrong.
Often, bad for the industry. Often (and never really punished)
illegal and immoral in it's conduct. But they are also dominant in the
marketplace, and we need to do business with them. This is NOT a
battle of Good VS Evil. This is NOT the living explication of the Lord
of the Rings Trilogy. It just is not.
Personally, as to Novell's deal with Microsoft, I think it was "a
first". And therefore awkward and not ... ideal. And, likely, needed
to happen in some guise at some time. Can Microsoft "be trusted"? Well
... no, not if you mean by "trust" that Microsoft will abandon it's
plans to subvert linux and F/OSS in general. But on the other hand,
does the agreement actually acomplish ANYTHING, other than
communicate "safety" to corporate accounts? I
don't think so.
It is not a legal precedent that can effectively be used. The most
that can be said is that it gave Ballmer a stage upon which to howl.
So ... I am waiting to hear more voices like Linus Torvalds, who wants
to keep away from the labels of "evil", the "true believing" mantras
that seem to hold sway as the main voices from "the community" right
I respect and admire the principles and passions of the community. I
just also happen to believe, that "pure" F/OSS can co-exist with
proprietary software and companies. And, actually, I believe that for
linux to penetrate even deeper into the corp world (especially in the
desktop) that alliances like the Novell/Microsoft alliance will be key.
I think the real tragedy, should it occur, is for the GPL 3 to compel
a split in linux ... or to effectively kill Suse linux. It think that
would be horrid, and a mistake, and ... would do great great harm to
F/OSS in the long run.
I am hoping that cooler heads prevail. I am hoping that Novell figures
out how to approach the FSF folks to begin a dialogue, and that the
parties find a way to agree where they can and continue on,
disagreeing where they must.
I am hoping that there are strong voices from amongst the Suse
community that will reach out and counsel and encourage sane and
reasonable behaviour. I am hoping we can end the crusade, and begin
Just my opinions and hopes.
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