Re: [opensuse] Re: silly girls' cli copy problem

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Jonathan Arnold wrote:
BandiPat wrote:
On Saturday 01 September 2007, primm wrote:
simplist answer:

cp * members/

lose the -a

it won't try to copy members to itself.
It won't copy all the folders (sic: directories).
I tried that but then I lose the permission settings I made on the
original directores and files.:-(

To repeat. It just has to be mc or rsync.

But I'm wondering. Is there anyway of getting into my cli only server
from a kde client on my lan? Or does the server have to have X
installed too to be able to do that?

Love from Lynn.
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Lynn,
I've watched all these shell commands in this thread and nobody has
mentioned that you could use something like Konqueror for what you want
to do easily.

Just to copy, open konqueror as file manager, do a split window from the
menu, gather your directories one each in either pane, then copy.
Click & drag. Simple & quick and I'm assuming you are using KDE as
your window manager. I've also found filezilla just recently, which I
like for the same functions in xfce4.

One thing the OP had as a limitation was no GUI. I would have thought
the . trick should have worked (easier to remember, IMO, than the rsync
command):

$ mkdir .members
$ cp -a * .members
$ mv .members members

BTW, I just made this a Question of the Day on Linux Brain Dump! Readers
here aren't allowed to answer it:-)

With a GUI, I would have opened the folder, done a select all, ctrl-clicked
the members folder, and dragged the rest to the members folder. A problem
is that under Konqueror, there doesn't seem to be an easy way to preserve
the attributes (ala -a). Under Krusader (my fav file manager these days),
if you right click on Copy..., there's an option to preserve the attributes.

To answer another question in this thread, I'm just a long time software
engineer who admins several of his own systems.


BTW I first came across this peculiarity of cp (the hard way crashing a
SUN workstation after a typo ;-) ) 20 years ago and I as I was a bit
surprised that the recursive self copy of a directory was still not
picked up as something that is probably not a good thing to allow to
happen, so I decided to do a little test (nice and safely on a floppy
:-) ).

The result was interesting, the files copied OK and a empty copy of the
directory appeared and error about copying a directory on to itself
occurred.

The original held...

fileA fileB test test2

where test and test2 are directories after..

cp -a + test

one ended up with

test containing

fileA fileB test test2

with test with the original contents of test...

(After performing a second ...

cp -a * test

test/test

had the contents

fileA fileB test test2

and so on ad infinitum... but that is to be expected)

so it occurs to me that....

cp -a * test ; rmdir test/test

is probably equally OK if test is empty !?!...

Now this could be a quirk due to the FAT fs on the floppy... maybe
someone is prepared to risk a partition (and possibly their sanity) to
verify this on another FS and maybe we have a 'Much ado about nothing'
scenario.

To the other question I have worked as a, programmers, systems
programmer, systems admin for a long time (mainly in an academic
environment)...


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I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my
telephone.
My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone.

Bjarne Stroustrup
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