Re: [opensuse] Redesign of YaST Control Center
- From: Jon Clausen <jon@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 09:18:16 +0100
On Fri, 23 Nov, 2007 at 18:06:22 -0800, Robert Smits wrote:
On Friday 23 November 2007 03:17:40 Thomas Goettlicher wrote:
Hi everyone,
we want to redesign the YaST Control Center. Therefore we are looking
for a radical new design.
This is your chance to share your ideas regarding YaST Control Center.
Please feel free to contribute with mockups and (unconventional) ideas
here: http://en.opensuse.org/YaST/Development/New_Control_Center
Hi, Thomas. Thanks for asking us about what we'd like to see.
Indeed, thanks for that.
All I really want is for YAST to be faster, especially at downloading updates
from repositories. And why does it have to download a whole new list if I
used it earlier in the day?
Agreed.
I'm not convinced I WANT a radical new design. I don't, as a rule, care all
that much for change for change's sake, but if you give me a better Yast,
I'll learn it.
Me too, though 'better' *is* kind of a subjective experience I guess :)
In other subthreads there are discussions on a variety of aspects. My take
on a couple of them:
[architecture]
I agree that a server/client sort of thing might be nice. There was some
discussion about ssh -X vs. NX and 'going https://'
To me the speed of ssh vs. NX seems irrelevant. If we're talking about
server/client - then the traffic would mainly consist of 'control-messages'
anyway, right?
server> "here are the options"
client> "do this"
server> "ok"
vs:
server> "bitmap bitmap bitmap"
client> "mouse click on coordinates such and such"
server> "pixel pixel pixel"
So what's needed is a networked YaST *protocol*, encapsulated in strong
encryption, rather than a way of transporting a locally generated gui
somewhere else (or rather; a remotely generated gui transported to 'here').
https:// ?
please don't:
Next thing you know it, I'm going to need javascript or mono or something,
in order to administrate remote boxes... <brrr....>
Cross-platform?
Thanks, but no thanks:
I have no desire to see linux core administration at the mercy of
windows-viruses.
Functionality?
Well, if the server knows something that my local YaST-console doesn't,
there should be an option to download and install that module from the
server.
[gui-layout]
I'm a big fan of tree structures, and the "left-pane shows navigation, right
pane shows content" way of things.
I think the sysconfig editor tree-structure in the ncurses YaST does a very
good job.
However, since there are more ways than one to represent the various
administrative tasks, it might be nice to have different tree *types*,
selectable.
On the other end of the spectrum we have the, no offense, 'gnome-menu' type
of layout;
Everything is one window, with icons spread out, and a scroll-bar that you
have to manipulate.
I don't like it. There, I said it.
MO
/jon
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