Re: [opensuse] RPM Question

Cornelius Franken wrote:
Excuse the Noob questions.

Still trying to get my head around the drive/folder layouts in Linux.

There are no "drives" in any *nix (Unix or Linux)... on a
properly administrated Unix or Linux system, the partitioning
of the disks, and what files are stored on what disks, could
be changed every night, and the users should NEVER be aware
that such a thing has happened.

Also...get used to using the word DIRECTORY instead of folder.
[you remember directories in MS-DOS... borrowed from Unix]]

All you need to worry about are path names.

For example, the "more" command is found at

/usr/bin/more

It doesn't matter what partition of what disk it's on in
your computer...it will ALWAYS be located by /usr/bin/more.



Having developed on everything from the first xt to current day Pentium
processors I would expect this to be somewhat easier than I am
experiencing at the moment.

Once you know what you're doing, it *IS* easy.

However, you're going to find a lot of administrative
tasks are not done with any sort of pointy-clicky interface...
which... in my experience, is GOOD.... because you can't
just bumble around screwing things up -- if you don't
know which file to edit, or which command to run, you're
not going to "break" anything.

And once you *DO* know what you're doing, you can easily
put the commands in shell scripts (think of .bat files,
but with a far more flexible and powerful mechanism
than command.com) and thus be able to make the commands
appear the way YOU want them to.


Last night I used RPM's for the first time.

I'm in the other boat... I first used BSD 4.2 Unix at Purdue
in 1983, and never used an MS-DOS computer until I was deployed
to Saudi Arabia in 1991.... and never used Windows until 1997.



As I have no internet at home yet I could not look inside the RPM
packages on my windows machine here at work.

That's ok.
"Looking inside" them wouldn't help you anyways.

I all the RPM installed
and working like I said. Also found out where they are putting the
installed files etc.

In my job I am a MSSQL DBA and SQL developer. I run a 7.8 TB (yes TB)
database with over 325 000 concurrent connections. I guess my main
reason for running Linux would be as server software. I want to see how
MySQL would handle the load we have at the office.

I would also suggest looking at Postgres, and also the Berkeley DB
(Postgres was developed at, I believe, Stanford University, and
the Berkeley DB, at, of course, Univ. of California, Berkeley).


Anyway like I said excuse the questions.


No problem.

But please reply on-list, instead of to me personally.


Regards
Neil


-----Original Message-----
From: Sam Clemens [mailto:clemens.sam1@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: 14 May 2008 09:41 AM
To: Cornelius Franken
Subject: Re: [opensuse] RPM Question

Cornelius Franken wrote:
I figured it out last night. Got everything installed. From what I can
see a RPM file is very similar to a windows .msi file. I did run into
a
dependency problem last night which I will fix today however I got
most
of the stuff installed.

RPM = Redhat Package Manager

It contains ALL files needed to install the package contained within it.


Advice -- try breaking the habit of thinking of everything in
terms of a "windows equivalent" because most Windows stuff is,
to put it frankly... broken implementations of otherwise
good ideas.

Case in point... "shortcuts" as compared to symbolic links.

Shortcuts are extremely crippled.

Regards
Neil


-----Original Message-----
From: Sam Clemens [mailto:clemens.sam1@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: 14 May 2008 02:39 AM
To: Cornelius Franken
Subject: Re: [opensuse] RPM Question

Cornelius Franken wrote:
I want to install some GUI tools for MySQL. OpenSuse/Software has a
MySQL Gui Install but it is like tiny 330kb or so. I also downloaded
the
MySQL GUI install tarball from the MYSQL site which is 32 MB. I was
just
wondering if I needed internet connectivity to install any of these.

If you have the file on the machine, why would you require
an internet connection to open up and process an RPM file?

Do you understand what an RPM file is?
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