Re: [opensuse] PPC - too many ways to fail

On 2008/10/23 09:40 (GMT-0400) Larry Stotler composed:

On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:02 AM, Felix Miata wrote:

The one used for all attempts up until a few minutes ago, manufactured
January 2008, Sony NEC Optiarc DDU1615 DVD readonly. Changing to a 24X
Matshita readonly CR-585 changed nothing whatsoever - YaST dies at at exactly
the same place as every other attempt, with every media burned.

Hey Felix, what type of RAM do you have in that G4?

4 different kinds. :-) I started with 3 sticks of 16 chip PC100 128M and 1 of
8 chip PC100 64M. I figured out it didn't like one of the 128s, and put
another in. Later I pulled the 64 and put in an 8 chip 256M PC133. So now it
has 640M total.

Macs can be VERY
picky about the RAM, and for some reason, Linix is even more picky.
I've had MacOS run certain RAM just fine, and then have Linux segfault
on the same RAM. Can you put the RAM in a different machine and test
it and try different RAM in the G4.

Not another Mac. I only have the one. I doubt trying it in something else
that isn't picky would prove anything. And, I'm not going to pull RAM out of
other machines to try, or try putting in other 64M or 32M sticks, which is
all I have other than another 8 chip 256 I tried that doesn't work in it at all.

Also, which G4 do you have?

Seems to be a Workgroup Server G4 (M7834LL/A). Sticker on back says:

EMC#1810
(serial)
400MHz/1M Cache/256M SDRAM/10GB U2 LVD HD/DVD-ROM/KB

It has internal 68 pin/external micro 50(?) pin LSI 896 chip SCSI, room for 5
internal HD (though I doubt the 170W PS would handle everything if all HD
locations were filled) & Rage 128 Pro AGP.

There are many different versions: Sawtooth, Mirror Drive Door,
Gigabit, etc. If you are not sure, look here for help:

http://lowendmac.com/ppc/index.shtml

The 7834 doesn't seem to exist there.

Oh, and I also tried installing Fedora 9 via HTTP. It managed to create and
format partitions before its (text mode) installer bailed. I would try 11.1
beta 3 ppc if only I could find an iso for it.

That right there leads me to think you may have a hardware issue. I
had a bad time with installing 10.0 because it would fail on all my
disks for rpm failures, and it wasn't the media. It ended up being
hardware, but I can't remember what exactly was the problem now. It
was also on a PM 9600, which is older than your Mac.

As I wrote in reply to Carlos a bit ago, I got 10.3 to install, so the
problem must be some incompatibility with that machine and 11.0, and/or
whatever the y2logs say, or a bug in the 11.0 isos.

Is your CPU Stock, or is it an upgrade? Some upgrades came overclocked.

AFAIK, it's running on the original, but I looked at the 800 upgrade link you
posted Monday and might go for it if I can satisfy myself the box is sound.
--
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slow to become angry." James 1:19 NIV

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