Re: [opensuse] Bye bye SuSE?

On October 25, 2008 02:47:17 pm Dotan Cohen wrote:
2008/10/25 Richard <ricreig@xxxxxxxxx>:
On Sat October 25 2008 4:37:50 pm Dotan Cohen wrote:
Had the URL not been in this thread, I would not have found it and
apparantly, only 2 or 3 others have manaaged to do so also at this
point.

Agreed, the page should be more visible.

The other 'problem' I see with the page is the assumption that a
novice (to wiki editing) such as myself would have a clue about how to
add their input/comments. A short paragraph about HOW to add your
comment, or a 'form' or popup page or some such would help. For
instance, it mentions each user should enter stuff with asterick, but
none of the entries have an asterick. I know what a tilde is, but it
is quite possible people who speak other than English as their first
lanaguage might not know what it is, how about '~~~~' as an example in
the text when they ask for 4 of them.

Actually, when I wrote that, I did not even know how to edit a wiki
either. I thought to myself "what must I do to edit this thing" and
within 5 minutes and some google I know enough to format the page as
you now see it. There are links right there on the Edit page as well.

First, I commend you for taking a positive approach. I'm not sure the
Devs will actually 'listen', but if your approach to the problem actually
does work, I, for one, will be hightly appreciative of your efforts.

That said, and with regard to 'links and google' searching, how about a
hotlink right in that initial paragraph where you mention examples maybe
'...then just look at the examples (help page) ...', where you summarize
what you learned during your searches. Many people using google would
be intimidated just knowing what to search for. If you just put in WIKI
in the search, you get thousands of hits for instance. So, before even
going to the edit page, a quick tutorial/summary of how and what (in a
linked page) would be a real asset.

Again, your efforts are appreciated by me at least, and I feel are steps
in the right direction.

Richard

They need only look at the prior examples now. If the user is
competent enough identify a missing feature, motivated enough to do
something about it, and talented enough to write a coherent feature
request, then I am willing to assume that he can copy+paste a previous
example and fit it to his needs.

Regarding the KDE devs, they've handled tens of "missing in KDE4" bug
reports that I've personally seen just as a casual bug filer, and I
doubt that I've seen the bulk of it. Many things are still missing,
but not because of apathy on the part of the KDE devs.

I echo Richard's appreciation, Dotan, but want to point out that a great many
of us don't know what features may be missing since KDE4 apparently has so
many changes and missing features we're not willing to invest the time in
experimenting with KDE4.

What I can tell you is what's important to me:

KDEPIM working with all it's regular features - kmail, knode,korganizer,
kaggregator, kaddressbook, kweather. I need Kpilot to work, too. And amarok,
kaffeine and k3b.

All the other stuff I use daily like OO and gnucash isn't particularly
affected by what KDE4 does.

I don't know how much of all this is already working but these are the things
I worry about, not eye candy.



















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