[opensuse] Checkinstall [Was: yum, python 2.6 and Suse 11.1 - A sad tale]

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On Wednesday, 2009-04-29 at 01:18 +0200, Philipp Thomas wrote:

On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 17:14:44 +0200 (CEST), you wrote:

The devs do not want to repair it,

Oh, I do want to repair it, but I won't invest weeks of coding time for
something that nobody inside suse is using!

But YOUR users are using it. There is no alternative. Are we openSUSE members part of openSUSE or not?

If you want something working,
check out the code from the checkinstall git repository ande compile it for
yourself.

*If* you want to complain to anyone do it upstreams to those that create
and maintain checkinstall. Ask them why they haven't yet released code that
works with newer glibc versions.

I'd prefer somebody from SUSE/Novell doing that, as you know what is wrong, and I don't.


they prefer us to create a spec file by hand, for which you need to be an expert,

No, you don't need to be an expert to create a spec, there are literally
thousands of examples to go from.

Examples that are from experts and for experts, and very much more difficult than having it done automatically.

I just searched for "create spec file" in the openSUSE site, and only
found "http://en.opensuse.org/SUSE_Build_Tutorial";. It starts with:

You should have a good understanding about the creation of RPMs.
This document is not aimed to be a replacement for RPM
documentation. There are already many HOWTOs, Guides and Books for
this see the resources paragraph for RPM related links.

Well, I have none. So, what do I do? I want to create an rpm as fast
as checkinstall does. I don't want to really do a seminar on creating
them. I don't really want to understand their insides in order to
create a private one.


of back then SuSE Linux and would need little work to maintain. Now that we
have the buildservice there isn't any need anymore to have it maintained
inside Novell. If the community wants the package, someone from that
community ought to step up and maintain it.

Again with the buildservice! Can you tell me what good is the buildservice for a single build that is going to be used for a single computer? I have no idea how to create an spec. How on earth would I use the buildservice to build any package for my private use, under half an hour, automatically?

The users of checkinstall do not want to distribute. We simply want to keep the rpm database happy (in ignorance if need be).

And... would you allow us to build, say, libdvdcs in your buildservice? I guess not.


Checkinstall is a gross hack and does not really fit into openSUSE as it
will happily create packages that defy all rules for this distribution.

I don't care. It fits our uses. Not yours, because you are a dev. Ours.

- -- Cheers,
Carlos E. R.
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