Re: [opensuse] General Poor quality of Opensuse



On Saturday 11 Jul 2009 14:48:22 Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
On Sat, 2009-07-11 at 00:47 +0100, Peter Nikolic wrote:
I have used Opensuse now for some years

So have I, it has been the best desktop/workstation OS and environment
I've found so far.

since the days of 5.3 in fact and

There never was an openSUSE 5.3; there was a SuSE 5.3 (I think)

Ok SuSE 5.3 same difference

Linux in general well before that since the days of the Early 0.9 kernels
all floppy distro no X i also ran Slackware and Red Hat and tested a
few more along the way so i know a thing or two about Linux

So did I, started on an i80386SX16 running Iggdrasil. Of course, having
used LINUX for a decade or so doesn't automatically give either of our
views any merits. This need of having to lay out one's LINUX or Open
Source street-cred is really tiring; a claim is valid [or not] on its
merits.

But it does give one a sense of the progress made and the present is very poor
indeed BTW that goes for 11.1 as well

It has to be said now after attempting to get 11.2 MS2 and 11.2 MS3 to
play the game the standards of releases has fallen to a new all time low
how on earth have you got the front to call these releases anything other
than Alpha at best .

Those are not official releases; of course things are broken.
There is broken and there is BORKED


The sound system is a total mess this pulseaudio thing is what nothing
more than a total blight on the system there needs to be a choice for
users risk pulseaudio or can that and run safe Alsa sound system . I
know you are going to say Alsa doesn't do this or that but unlike
pulseaudio it never failed to work it never chopped the audio

Pulseaudio certainly hasn't been all peaches-and-cream but it does
provide real advantages and after updates it works OK on 11.1 (the
latest *release*).

Beg to differ it fails completely to make any noise of note, it is as choppy
as hell it sounds terrible .

All of these systems work perfectly under 10.3 and did right from the very
first alpha's so once again a fail.


Beagle ! what a total pain and complete resource hog once again it needs
to be a LOT easier to un-install or not install at all With the
requisite warning for those that do install it beware it will hog your
CPU for excessive amounts of time ,

Seriously? It has been years since Beagle CPU hogged; recent versions
have been very stable and consumed minimal resources. The functionality
provided is wonderful.

Likewise Nepomuk .

That's a KDE thing, so I don't know anything about it. For good
performance and stability use GNOME.

Then we have this whole License thing about codecs and DVD playing
software things like DHT as well

This doesn't have anything to do with openSUSE; this is an issue with
ALL distributions. But the one-click install well documented on the
website solves this problem efficiently.

, People purchase a distro and rightfully so expect
to be able to install it bang in a DVD

Who are these "people"? They *purchase* a distro?

This mail is aimed squarley at the Opensuse team who o know will call me
for

I'm not on the openSUSE team; but you posted this rant in a public
forum.

Posted in public on purpose out here it cant be swept under the rug

everything under the sun plus some it is a two way street don forget i
have gripes with quite a few there who's attitudes STINK but i am not
interested in them right now , Contray to the comments that will come in
from one in perticular a lot of the content of this email will be agreed
by a considerable number of people

Perhaps, that number doesn't include me.

Nope your one of the blinker wearers

a lot will keep stum they dont want their name
to appear thats ok by me some may just get brave enough to agree fair
dincum blue but do not for one moment think i am a one off this
world is full of people that think one thing and say another for the
sake of not standing out

Claiming to be backed by a silent majority is bogus. That is equivalent
to referring to yourself as "we". Your also claiming [and thus
insulting] your mysterious majority by claiming they are either lazy or
cowards.

SO you calling me a coward now come say that to my face .

There is a lot more i could mention maybe i will shortly but one thing is
for sure the situation as of this moment is a total disgrace to the SuSe
name and a very poor shadow of it's former good name sort it out people
, There is no point being the first ones to release something if it is a
complete screwup a little more time in the R&D and less in the sales
will work wonders

openSUSE has been the most pleasant and stable desktop I've used yet.
And performance is very good.

you obviously thinking back a few releases the last good performer 10.3
boot time in both 11.1 and all 11.2.xx releases is chronic all 11.2 releases
so far fail completely to un mount the filing system before shutting down or
rebooting and no i have no interest or desire to use any of the ext filing
systems reiser and xfs worked faultlessly under 10.3 so why should we
expect it to fail under 11.2.xx

Pete



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