[opensuse] Reply to G T Smith
- From: Constantinos Galilei <pandarsson@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 11:58:33 -0500
On Tuesday August 25 2009 5:27:08 am G T Smith wrote:
On a more pertinent note, one also needs to consider those who voted
with their feet...
Do they? You mentioned the importance of choice. Why should KDE people care
about what non-KDE users think of KDE? Believe it or not, there are those who
leave other desktops for KDE, as well. If you find that uncomfortable, go
ahead and disbelieve it, but ask yourself if Gnome people should care what
non-Gnome users think.
There are still features I miss from OS/2's Workplace Shell, but I wouldn't go
back to it. I actually made a feature request on this a long time ago, but
I'm guessing it didn't interest too many people. I'd still like to see KDE
eventually have work folders that act like mini-sessions that you could create
by saving the current running programs as a folder and launch them by clicking
the folder later, though.
The only thing I used on a regular basis that was QT based was konqueror
as a file browser. (I am not impressed by dolphin). This was largely
mitigated by mc and the discovery that Nautilus no longer did crazy
things on my setups. The few other KDE things I use on occasional basis
had GTK or X based alternative. KDE AFAIK is the only QT based desktop,
and there are rather a lot of non-QT based desktops. So I realised that
it it did not make much sense for me install KDE or the QT libraries or
invest time in setting up KDE4 (YMMV).
You've actually inspired me to uninstall Gnome. The only GTK apps I use are
Firefox, Openoffice (of which I will be using the QT version if that's ever
finished) and GIMP, and with the exception of GIMP, these thankfully don't
*look* like GTK apps. I've had Gnome on my machine forever and it's kind of a
waste of drive space.
PS There is now a further factor to consider. When Nokia acquired
Trolltech hence QT, it was not to get a foothold in the PC based Open
Source market place (it was more likely part of a strategic response to
the potential threat posed by android, and the need to update the
Symbian OS GUI). Nokia are largely indifferent to Open Source based
development and its community, (and can afford to be as Open Source
based development in of handset applications is marginal). In some ways
Nokia can make M$ seem positively cuddly...., and Nokias relative
silence about the future of QT outside of their core market is probably
more of a cause of concern than if they had said anything.
This point is more or less moot. The open source community has a fork of QT
that will be available forever. I actually hope that Nokia changes the policy
on the commercial QT, but it's actually not in their interests as a separate
QT would be major competition and developers would be able to write commercial
applications using the free QT without paying a fee to Nokia/Trolltech.
Keeping a unified QT means that free and commercial QT applications remain
compatible and the commercial version remains relevant. Nokia's kind of stuck
on this one.
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