Re: [opensuse] Promoting openSUSE 11.2 & voting for the openSUSE 11.2 promo DVD cover

On Fri, 2009-11-06 at 11:26 +0100, Lars Müller wrote:
On Fri, Nov 06, 2009 at 10:53:15AM +0100, Hans Witvliet wrote:
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Perhaps it would be informative to have a side-by-side comparison of the
main releases (openSUSE_11.2, SLES_11, Buildservice-addons, ubuntu_9.10,
fedora_11, centos_5.4, ...) , and what version the most important
packages have. (total count of available packages?)

That's nothing a vendor should provide. I fear such a comparison
presented at an openSUSE.org page would not help to establish trust into
the people behind the project.

True, one might get the impression that the author is perhaps biased ;-)

Such a comparison is a task for Linux magazines. The vendors might
provide an overview what's included in which version (glibc, bash, KDE,
Gnome, Firefox, Samba, ...).

The other and for the users more important question is how well
integrated are the different parts to make it a good = useable product.

Shure, but two things:
You can write that 11.2 has the latest (what ever that may mean)
versions of firefox, thunderbird OO.o, for working safer and faster and
bla-die-bla. But that is what they all do....

Some just released (unnamed) product, still use security related
packages that are over a year old. If SuSE demonstrate that their
packages are up-to-date, it demonstrate not only that security is an
important issue, but also that you have the capability to ensure that it
stays that way.

It might be helpfull to have a test suite to check a set of applications
to be available and to collect the version data. Like we already have
with LSB. I'm not sure if LSB is still limited to rpm based systems.

At the next level we might have to ask ourself if we like to compare our
Linux with closed source products like Apple Mac OS and Microsoft
Windows?

Shure, Microsoft has a larger share desktop-users.
Specialy then, a list of comparable products for endusers might be
worthwhile. (and explictly mentioning wine for ommisions on the
*nix-list)
I still remember that someone at suse mentioned that SuSE were
supporting more hardware out-of-the-box than Microsoft. Emphasize on
that!

To me the answer is quite clear: In particular the mass market of
Microsoft users must be the target. Apple demonstrates that it is
possible to bite them. :) And I also like to bite these shiny Apples.

Wonderfully phrased!

It boils down to the main question:
Do you want to promote why 11.2 is good?
Or do you want to promote why 11.2 is better (compared to others)!
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