Re: [opensuse] difference between dup and up
- From: Roger Oberholtzer <roger@xxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 12:00:13 +0100
On Wed, 2009-12-16 at 14:11 +0100, Jano Kupec wrote:
On 12/16/2009 12:39 PM, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
On Wed, 2009-12-16 at 12:30 +0100, Jano Kupec wrote:
There's no problem with using dup, you just need to keep the above in
mind. After all, there's always the 'Continue?' prompt :O)
The downgrading activity of dup sounds familiar. I have a new xorg
radeonhd driver installed (the one that comes with 11.2 crashes when
there are 3D effects in KDE). When I use dup, it wants to downgrade that
driver. Good to know update will not do this.
It seems there is a third zypper flavour that would be interesting:
Note that the third is 'zypper patch' that will just follow the official
updates via zypp patches. But that works only with repositories
containing such patches (currently only the official updates i guess).
update that will change architecture (like docs moving into noarch) or
update vendors, without having to list every single one in some file.
I bet someone will say, RTFM any you will see option -x. But zypper has
so many options, and the man page descriptions are sometimes too generic
to get a real feel for what they mean. If there is such an option, I
have missed it.
solver.allowVendorChange = true in /etc/zypp/zypp.conf :O)
I have edited the file so this line is active. There were comments about
it, so I am guessing my zypper version (zypper-1.2.8-0.1.3.i586)
supports this directive.
I just added a Mono repo.
(http://ftp.novell.com/pub/mono/download-stable/openSUSE_11.2). The
system is up-to-date, except for whatever this repo wants to add.
If I run zypper up, I get:
Retrieving repository 'openSUSE BuildService - Mono:2.6' metadata
[done]
Building repository 'openSUSE BuildService - Mono:2.6' cache
[done]
Loading repository
data...
Reading installed
packages...
Nothing to do. Hum... There should be something.
If I run zypper dup, I get:
Loading repository data...
Reading installed packages...
Computing distribution upgrade...
The following NEW packages are going to be installed:
mono-extras mono-wcf mozilla-kde4-integration
The following package is going to be REMOVED:
mozilla-xulrunner191-kde4
The following packages are going to be upgraded:
art-sharp2 gconf-sharp2 glade-sharp2 glib-sharp2 gnome-panel-sharp
gnome-sharp2 gnome-vfs-sharp2 gtk-sharp2 libfreebl3 libgdiplus0
libredland0 mono-addins mono-core
mono-data mono-data-sqlite mono-nunit mono-web mono-winforms
mozilla-nss
The following packages are going to be downgraded:
tomboy tomboy-lang xorg-x11-driver-video-radeonhd
The following packages are going to change vendor:
art-sharp2 openSUSE -> Novell, Inc.
gconf-sharp2 openSUSE -> Novell, Inc.
glade-sharp2 openSUSE -> Novell, Inc.
glib-sharp2 openSUSE -> Novell, Inc.
gnome-panel-sharp openSUSE -> Novell, Inc.
gnome-sharp2 openSUSE -> Novell, Inc.
gnome-vfs-sharp2 openSUSE -> Novell, Inc.
gtk-sharp2 openSUSE -> Novell, Inc.
libfreebl3 openSUSE ->
obs://build.opensuse.org/mozilla
libgdiplus0 openSUSE -> Novell, Inc.
libredland0 openSUSE ->
obs://build.opensuse.org/KDE
mono-addins openSUSE -> Novell, Inc.
mono-core openSUSE -> Novell, Inc.
mono-data openSUSE -> Novell, Inc.
mono-data-sqlite openSUSE -> Novell, Inc.
mono-nunit openSUSE -> Novell, Inc.
mono-web openSUSE -> Novell, Inc.
mono-winforms openSUSE -> Novell, Inc.
mozilla-nss openSUSE ->
obs://build.opensuse.org/mozilla
tomboy obs://build.opensuse.org/Mono ->
openSUSE
tomboy-lang obs://build.opensuse.org/Mono ->
openSUSE
xorg-x11-driver-video-radeonhd obs://build.opensuse.org/X11 ->
openSUSE
19 packages to upgrade, 3 to downgrade, 3 new, 1 to remove, 22 to
change vendor.
Overall download size: 26.4 MiB. After the operation, additional 6.4 MiB
will be used.
Continue? [y/n/?] (y):
Meaning that it wants to add the mono things, as well as revert a few
things I do not want reverted.
So, there must be more that is needed to get zypper up to change vendor.
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