Re: [opensuse] 11.2 a big step backwards?

On 3/3/2010 1:02 PM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 07:33 -0800, jsa wrote:
On Thursday 25 February 2010 05:20:28 am Will Stephenson wrote:
On Saturday 20 February 2010 02:04:36 Felix Miata wrote:
(Disclaimer: I've been a KDE developer since the 2.x days and was deeply
involved in the KDE 4 process).
Felix, you are confusing the KDE desktop shell with what is now known as
the KDE Software Compilation - the complete suite of software built with
KDE.
It is true that parts of the desktop shell - in KDE 3, the panels and
desktop background provided by kicker and kdesktop - was completely
replaced by the Plasma Desktop.
The applications, the window manager, and the libraries that make up the
platform were ported from KDE 3, rationalised in some places and extended
in others.
Don't take everything you read in forums and lists as gospel...
That is pretty much at odds with what we have been told all along.

Okay. I don't know who "we" are - but perhaps this should simply be
taken as an indication that "you" are tuned in to the wrong
people/sources.

Beware ridiculous grossly-simplified BLOG entries & articles.

I recommend <http://www.lwn.net>


Well I was going with stuff on this list and kde.org.
I see no particular reason to lend any more credence to your link
than any of the other sources.


But: Its been almost 3 years.
No advances in KDE have been made while this rebuild was in progress.
(discounting look and feel). It may be easier to maintain going forward.
But three years of progress have been lost.

But with an unmaintainable code base you'd have zero progress anyway.

To the extent it was unmaintainable, true. However it was maintainable
and being maintained right up to the point someone decided it wasn't.
New updates were coming out all along. New applications were also being
added to run under KDE every month. Then it all stopped.

But lets not obsess with water under the bridge. (Actually we have
all passed a lot of water since then)...

Lets not miss the key point here...

The main point is Will is telling us now that, No, not only was KDE3
NOT unmaintainable, but rather that the vast majority of the code base
is intact and still in operation.

Clearly we all see the visual aspects of the UI has changed. But not more
significantly than those changes possible with themes.

But many applications simply disappeared, others to huge efforts by Dotan
filing mountains of bug reports to get them up and running and Will leaning
on the developers.

Why did this happen if the major portion of the code base was intact?

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