Re: [opensuse] Stability - 11.1 vs 11.2



Am Samstag, 19. Juni 2010, 11:17:11 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
On 2010-06-19 10:52, Sven Burmeister wrote:
Am Samstag, 19. Juni 2010, 10:22:57 schrieb Felix Miata:
On 2010/06/19 08:40 (GMT+0200) Sven Burmeister composed:
Felix Miata wrote:
Oh how many machines, at what CPU speeds, with how much RAM?

KDE4 runs fine on older machines as well, it runs fine on netbooks. And
btw the GPU or to be precise the graphics driver's capabilities are one
of the major factors on how KDE4 is perceived. And yes, todays software
is for recent hardware not oldtimers whose hardware is worse than a
mobile phone's from the present. Use old hardware with old software or
software that was meant to be for outdated hardware.

One of the strong points of Linux was that it could be used on older
hardware, extending the life of those machines. You are negating that
goal.

Nope. First of all, KDE != Linux. Second, KDE4 works on older hardware. But
you have to draw a line if you need to focus, i.e. if manpower is restricted.
Thus most people create things that fit current needs not those from 10 years
ago. So if you want a DE that works on very old hardware, get one that aims at
that, KDE4 does not.

Not everyone can afford to replace working hardware. Many who can
instead choose to avoid that ecologically bankrupt practice.

Not forgetting that often those old machines are donated; to charities,
poorer countries, etc.

So? KDE4 was never meant to run on an OLPC.

Hm, AFAIK today's CPUs waste less power than those from a few years ago,
same for hard disks, just as one example. So ecologically old hardware
might even be more harmful. Same for heavy metal usage in hardware
components.

The manufacturing of one cpu is always worse than running the existing
hardware. You may save power when using it, but you need a lot of power to
build it. It might have less harmful materials, but that will always be
worse than simply not making the machine and using the older one (till it
fails), which is already built and the damage (in materials) is already
committed.

Same goes for cars, washing machines, whatever.

Starting to save today is always better than starting tomorrow because no
matter how long it takes to get back what you invested it will always be one
day earlier than if you started tomorrow.

And I won't get into details regarding security and comfort, handling of
cloths and thus less damage etc. Progress is not a bad thing and progress does
involve letting go of some things to gain others.

Sven
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