Re: [opensuse] Kaffeine on 11.3 fails to produce audio

On 31/07/2010 01:32, Peter Nikolic wrote:
On Friday 30 Jul 2010 12:25:28 Basil Chupin wrote:
On 30/07/2010 17:46, Peter Nikolic wrote:
On Friday 30 Jul 2010 05:30:11 Basil Chupin wrote:
On 28/07/10 00:48, Peter Nikolic wrote:
On Tuesday 27 Jul 2010 14:53:29 Basil Chupin wrote:
On 27/07/10 23:24, Peter Nikolic wrote:
On Tuesday 27 Jul 2010 12:53:55 Basil Chupin wrote:
On 27/07/10 17:12, Peter Nikolic wrote:
On Tuesday 27 Jul 2010 00:52:17 Rodney Baker wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:30:31 Basil Chupin wrote:
On 07/07/10 19:37, peter nikolic wrote:
Well this does not bode at all well

Kaffeine fails very miserably on the first hurdle try to view
TV and i get a quick click of sound no video and a report of
kaffeine xbu segmentation fault this is not good at all for
what is supposed to be the best around in fact it sucks .
There is nothing spectacular about kaffeine, Peter, except that
it can record a program. (I've been waiting for a fix to be
implemented for around 12 months now after the maintainer said
he found the reason for the problem I reported :-( .)

I use xine which I find far superior to kaffeine - except that it
cannot do recordings.

To use xine install xine-ui. Configure xine - if you need some
info or even my control file then simply ask and I'll send you
my copy which you can then alter to suit your system.

Also, to watch TV you will need to create a channels.conf file
for it and the bestest way of doing this is to install w-scan;
then run "w_scan -c<yy> -X> channels.conf" [1] where<yy>
is your country's code (like AU is for me) and it will
generate the conf file for where you live; copy this conf file
to the ~/.xine directory and away you go with your TV. (BTW, the
line command I just gave applies for a terrestrial system - and
you will need to change the "-c" to configure for for cable or
satellite - read the README for w-scan.)

[1] note the difference between the "-" and the underscore "_" in
"w-scan" and "w_scan". Also note my use of">" and not the">>"
used in the README.

BC
Basil,
Where did you get w_scan from? I can't find it in any of the
repo's that I have configured (which include packman and vlc) -
running 11.2/KDE4.4.93.

Thanks,
Rodney.
Yes Hi again Basil .

i have to admit i had forgotten about w-scan althou xine does scan
ok a bit slow and clunky and makes a bit of a mess it works
BUT VLC also works and does a nice job of the tv display
I'm buggered if I can figure out on how to get vlc to recognise the
TV channels on the DVB-T card :-( . And I cannot find the
appopriate documentation which would show me how to do this - most
of the dox appear to be in the "yet to do" category :-( . Perhaps
something in the mail list of the forum for videolan but as xine is
working most satisfactorily for me I haven't bothered to go tearing
my hair out trying to get vlc to do TV.
Right then here is what i do to get VLC to show TV

Open VLC> Media> open capture device

New window opens

then the box where it says video for Linux 2 click on that pick DVB
you will then see just below that the DVB adaptor pick DVB s t or c
to suit your card mine is t terristial then at the bottom of the
window you will see a button Play click that it will then clear off a
new small window will open and show the scan progress .
Been there, done that...and this is where the wheels fall off :-( .
The scan progresses but no stations are selected! :-( . Zilch.
Nothing. :-(

Something is missing but I don't know what.

If I could get the darn thing to actually find the stations during the
scan I would be a happy-chappy. kaffeine will do it without any
problems; xine will do it with the help of either dvb-utils or w-scan
- but not vlc :-( .

BC
Hum well not sure what is missing then this is just a new install of
11.3 x86_64 with the pacman repo updates maybe it is to do with that
but it just worked and was likewise on 11.2

Pete .
Well, I solved the problem of not being able to view TV using vlc :-) .
I can now see all channels - which also means that I can now replace
kaffeine (for the recording of programs) and xine (for TV and DVDs) and
use vlc for everything.

BC
Hi Basil ..


What you have to do to get it working ..

i actully had a bit of a strange one with VLC 2 days ago i had scanned
for

channels saved the file as a playlist closed it all down called up VLC
again and it no way would play any of the BBC channels everything else
was fine but no BBC so i rescanned saved that file under another name
it missed a lof of stuff (signal levels here can be crap to be polite
about it) hacke the 2 files together and all fine loads dead quick
changes channel quick still having a dust up with kaffeine but for now
VLC is working
To be honest, I really don't know what you mean by "scanning for
channels" and "[saving] the file as a playlist".
Hum well the version of VLC i got on here uses a .xspf file which is an XML
file



excert from file ..


<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<playlist version="1" xmlns="http://xspf.org/ns/0/";
xmlns:vlc="http://www.videolan.org/vlc/playlist/ns/0/";>
<title>Playlist</title>
<trackList>
<track>
<location>dvb://frequency=634333332:bandwidth=8</location>
<title>BBC NEWS</title>
<extension
application="http://www.videolan.org/vlc/playlist/0";>
<vlc:id>0</vlc:id>
<vlc:option>program=4415</vlc:option>
</extension>
</track>
<track>
<location>dvb://frequency=634166670:bandwidth=8</location>
<title>BBC ONE</title>
<extension
application="http://www.videolan.org/vlc/playlist/0";>
<vlc:id>1</vlc:id>
<vlc:option>program=4165</vlc:option>
</extension>
</track>
<track>
<location>dvb://frequency=634333332:bandwidth=8</location>
<title>BBC Red Button</title>
<extension
application="http://www.videolan.org/vlc/playlist/0";>
<vlc:id>2</vlc:id>
<vlc:option>program=4479</vlc:option>
</extension>
</track>


then at the end of the file there is

</trackList>
<extension application="http://www.videolan.org/vlc/playlist/0";>
<vlc:item tid="0" />
<vlc:item tid="1" />
<vlc:item tid="2" />
<vlc:item tid="3" />
<vlc:item tid="4" />


Doing this from within vlc does zilch, nothing, nada, not a sausage is
generated - at least for *me*, and unless *you* are also using some
magical incantations while doing so (and about which you have been
keeping very quiet, you naughty-type man :-) ).

Most strange must be a slight difference somewhere along the line

What you DO have to do is to use w-scan to produce a channels.conf file
which you then use in the command line when you start vlc. If you do
this only THEN will you get the TV channels which vlc recognises as the
Playlist.
Now i tried w_scan with xine and the file it created made xine barf in several
places
The thing is this computer is not only the computer it is my complete
media center TV Radio Music Video ect so it not working is a real
PITA


Pete .
BC
It never ceases to amaze me how different installs of what is supposed to be
the same software seems to behave completely different from machine to machine



Pete .

The file you have is in the wrong format.

Follow my instructions which I gave in another post earlier today to create the correct channels.conf file in xine format.

BC


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