Re: [opensuse] What does this error message mean?

On Wed, 09 May 2012 00:22:52 +0530, DenverD <DenverD@xxxxxxx> wrote:

On 05/08/2012 05:23 PM, Sven Burmeister wrote:
Am Dienstag, 8. Mai 2012, 15:04:15 schrieb phanisvara das:
On Tue, 08 May 2012 14:54:23 +0530, Basil Chupin<blchupin@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

wrote:
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Can anyone throw some light on the above error message, please? (Or do I
simply turn off the daily Online Update feature?)

practically everybody i know of has either disabled or uninstalled apper.
it doesn't work, full stop. get rid of it& forget it.

That wrong in two ways. First of all apper is just a front-end to packagekit
and packagekit is powered by a zypp-backend. Hence most issues you think are
apper's fault are zypp backend bugs.

and, to me (don't know about you--ymmv) i would rather disable apper than zypp, zypper or YaST..

you're joking, aren't you? you can not LIVE without zypper, while life goes on pretty much as always without apper & packagekit.

YaST Online Update and/or "zypper patch" works just fine for me..

(almost) always has. (while i prefer "zypper up" to ~ patch.)

so, it is easiest to disable/ignore the program combo which does not work (apper & zypp)..

yes.

btw: i also had to disable packagekit in 11.3, and chose to ignore/disable whatever it was called in KDE3 (on openSUSE 10.3)


since that time i haven't had either of them on my system. one or two libraries related to packagekit have to remain, due to some other dependencies, but alone they don't do any harm.

what i don't understand is why this is neither being fixed nor removed. i do believe sven burmeister when he says that it works in many cases. after all, when things go right people don't write about them. but here & at the forums i've seen dozens of frustrated users complaining about apper, and the solution has always been "remove." not only from rash youngsters like myself, but also from seasoned & respected pillars of the community.

looking from the outside, this doesn't appear to be such a huge problem -- not something like akonadi/strigi in KDE, which works (or doesn't) in thousands of layers. but then i've never really looked at this, because it's easy to remove and, at least for me, no great loss not to have.

are the dev.s playing pingpong, apper saying it's zypper's fault and vice versa, and then all agree to blame packagekit?

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