Re: ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 19, Issue 175

how can i install windowsxp on ubuntu operating system



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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Dapper: vim instead of nano as editor alternative?
(Matthew R. Dempsky)
2. Re: evolution /spamassassin marks everything as spam (Matt Price)
3. Re: Remote Desktop : Connecting to a WinXP machine ?
(Vincent Trouilliez)
4. Re: Remote Desktop : Connecting to a WinXP machine ?
(Patrick Siglin)
5. Re: Remote Desktop : Connecting to a WinXP machine ?
(Vincent Trouilliez)
6. Re: Remote Desktop : Connecting to a WinXP machine ?
(Roger Haxton)
7. Re: Remote Desktop : Connecting to a WinXP machine ?
(Patrick Siglin)
8. Re: Remote Desktop : Connecting to a WinXP machine ?
(Vincent Trouilliez)
9. [Dapper upgrade] subprocess paste killed by signal? (Ben Novack)
10. Re: Help with dv cam (Patrick Siglin)
11. Re: Remote Desktop : Connecting to a WinXP machine ?
(Vincent Trouilliez)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 20:59:42 -0600
From: "Matthew R. Dempsky" <mrd@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Dapper: vim instead of nano as editor alternative?
To: Ubuntu Help and User Discussions <ubuntu-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <20060316025942.GD8636@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 10:36:32AM +1100, Yuki Cuss wrote:
Consider learning how to use it. It is an *invaluable* tool for users of
any UNIX-based system. (don't give in and use EMACS :) though I
shouldn't strike up the holy wars) It's actually quite simple when you
start to learn how it's used, and you'll be zipping around files with
such speed that you'll surprise yourself.

It still shouldn't be made to the default. Users that are capable of
using vim will have no problem changing their editor.

Similarly, I love LaTeX and think it produces far better documents than
OpenOffice.org, but I'm not about to propose that Ubuntu drop OO.o in
favor of Lyx or gedit+teTeX.



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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 22:00:12 -0500
From: Matt Price <matt.price@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: evolution /spamassassin marks everything as spam
To: Ubuntu Help and User Discussions <ubuntu-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <20060316030012.GA25481@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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hi karl,


On Fri, Mar 03, 2006 at 11:02:57AM -0800, Karl Hegbloom wrote:
On Mon, 2006-02-27 at 16:18 -0500, Matt Price wrote:
SO now I just have the default spam filter enabled, and all my mail is
being tagged as spam. On the other hand, if I isolate a single
message
and run spamc on the ocmmand line, e.g:

cat ~/.evolution/mail/local/test | spamc -R

I get very good results (non-spam has very low scores, spam has very
high scores). Has anyone else dealt with this issue? Can you suggest
a
solution?

Purge or move aside the "~/.spamassassin" directory, and edit
"/etc/default/spamassassin" to make sure that "ENABLED=0" is there (the
package default is 0). In other words, don't run a system wide SA.

Use the default spam checking from Evolution, which will start up a
private instance of spamassassin running as your own login id, and then
access it via 'spamc'.


if I understand you correctly, I should no longer need to do this, as
the automatic spam-checking should now work.

Don't try to pretrain the SA, but when messages are not matched as spam,
click the Junk button.

missed this message earlier in the month, thank you for your response,
will try this! Didn't realize that evolution started a private
spamassassin instance.

I've been using a bogofilter filter that I saw in a forum somewhere,
and it works pretty well (catches about 90% of spam, very few false
positives) , but as far as I can see there's no way to train
bogofilter from within evolution. So I'm hoping your suggestion gives
me a better solution

also, is there a reason I shouldn't try pretraining?

thanks much,

matt




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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 04:02:37 +0100
From: Vincent Trouilliez <vincent.trouilliez@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Remote Desktop : Connecting to a WinXP machine ?
To: Ubuntu Help and User Discussions <ubuntu-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <1142478157.16397.77.camel@localhost>
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On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 20:45 -0600, Matthew R. Dempsky wrote:
On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 03:14:33AM +0100, Vincent Trouilliez wrote:
It works well except for one strange show stopper...

The behavior you're describing is intentional. Microsoft doesn't want
multiple users on a single PC at a time.

Ah okay, I see... Windows sux (tm), as usual... ;-)

This will prevent my remote friend from actually seeing me control his
desktop, so although I will hopefully be able to fix his e-mail client,
he won't be able to watch me doing it, so he won't learn anything...

Thanks Windows...

Well anyway, looks like I am fully sorted and clued both on Windows/RDP,
and Linux/VNC, and ready to connect to his machine, so thanks everyone
who contributed to this thread, I much appreciated the quick and
efficient help ! :o)

Regards,

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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 21:05:01 -0600
From: "Patrick Siglin" <poison@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Remote Desktop : Connecting to a WinXP machine ?
To: Ubuntu Help and User Discussions <ubuntu-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <20060316030437.M4162@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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He can see you control his pc if he loads vnc on it.

On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 04:02:37 +0100, Vincent Trouilliez wrote
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 20:45 -0600, Matthew R. Dempsky wrote:
On Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 03:14:33AM +0100, Vincent Trouilliez wrote:
It works well except for one strange show stopper...

The behavior you're describing is intentional. Microsoft doesn't want
multiple users on a single PC at a time.

Ah okay, I see... Windows sux (tm), as usual... ;-)

This will prevent my remote friend from actually seeing me control
his desktop, so although I will hopefully be able to fix his e-mail
client, he won't be able to watch me doing it, so he won't learn
anything...

Thanks Windows...

Well anyway, looks like I am fully sorted and clued both on
Windows/RDP, and Linux/VNC, and ready to connect to his machine, so
thanks everyone who contributed to this thread, I much appreciated
the quick and efficient help ! :o)

Regards,

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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 04:14:17 +0100
From: Vincent Trouilliez <vincent.trouilliez@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Remote Desktop : Connecting to a WinXP machine ?
To: Ubuntu Help and User Discussions <ubuntu-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <1142478857.16397.83.camel@localhost>
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On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 21:05 -0600, Patrick Siglin wrote:
He can see you control his pc if he loads vnc on it.

Yes sure, as I mentioned earlier in this thread, I got VNC running just
fine on Windows :-)
I keep telling my remote friend how Penguins are often much better than
rattling Windows, looks like this remote administration thing will be
yet another opportunity to prove my point !! Heehee.... :-)

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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 21:16:47 -0600
From: Roger Haxton <rhaxton@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Remote Desktop : Connecting to a WinXP machine ?
To: ubuntu-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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On Wednesday March 15 2006 20:14, Vincent Trouilliez wrote:
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 20:54 -0500, Mark Johanson wrote:
When remote connecting to a XP system the account you are
connecting to must have a password set up on it.

Ah thanks ! :-)
I added a password to my account, now I can connect to it ! :o)

It works well except for one strange show stopper...

1) First, I log into my XP account
2) In Ubuntu I open an RDP session
3) I can see the Windows desktop and control it.
4) however as soon as the seesion is started, windows logs me out !!!
5) I log back again in windows
6) When I have done that, now it's the Ubuntu remote desktop session
that exists/closes all of a sudden !


It doesn't log you out, it locks the screen. That is the normal and
expected
behaviour. Remote desktop isn't designed for you to take control of the
other user's session and let them watch you. It is a form of terminal
services that allows you to connect to your own machine remotely. Remote
assistance is Microsoft's protocol to allow you both to be able to watch
the
session. However, there is no linux client that I'm aware of. (granted,
I've
never looked.) For what it sounds like you're wanting VNC is your best
bet.
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 21:18:48 -0600
From: "Patrick Siglin" <poison@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Remote Desktop : Connecting to a WinXP machine ?
To: Ubuntu Help and User Discussions <ubuntu-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <20060316031629.M1023@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Windows does have some perks. One being it is easy to setup everything.
The
downside is ofcourse all the security holes and it being a major target
for
spyware and viruses. I don't know how linux compares in the spyware and
virus
part since I have only been using linux for about 3 weeks now. I do
believe
that linux is making me a better trouble shooter though since a lot of
things
are harder to setup.

On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 04:14:17 +0100, Vincent Trouilliez wrote
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 21:05 -0600, Patrick Siglin wrote:
He can see you control his pc if he loads vnc on it.

Yes sure, as I mentioned earlier in this thread, I got VNC running just
fine on Windows :-)
I keep telling my remote friend how Penguins are often much better than
rattling Windows, looks like this remote administration thing will be
yet another opportunity to prove my point !! Heehee.... :-)

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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 04:27:11 +0100
From: Vincent Trouilliez <vincent.trouilliez@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Remote Desktop : Connecting to a WinXP machine ?
To: Ubuntu Help and User Discussions <ubuntu-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <1142479631.5453.2.camel@localhost>
Content-Type: text/plain

On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 21:16 -0600, Roger Haxton wrote:
It doesn't log you out, it locks the screen. That is the normal and
expected
behaviour. Remote desktop isn't designed for you to take control of the
other user's session and let them watch you. It is a form of terminal
services that allows you to connect to your own machine
remotely. Remote
assistance is Microsoft's protocol to allow you both to be able to watch
the
session. However, there is no linux client that I'm aware of. (granted,
I've
never looked.) For what it sounds like you're wanting VNC is your best
bet.

Hmm, thanks for shedding some light Roger, I am starting to make sense
of windows behaviour now, it does have some logic to it in the end ;o)
So I guess what I would be asking for, in the future, is that Gnome
Terminal Server Client applet, handles this " Remote Assistance"
protocol of Windows. I might file a wishlist bug about it, in case it's
not already in their pipeline...

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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 22:31:57 -0500
From: "Ben Novack" <bhn3@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: [Dapper upgrade] subprocess paste killed by signal?
To: "Ubuntu Help and User Discussions" <ubuntu-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID:
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Hey all.

So I tried to move to Dapper, and got this when running apt-get
dist-upgrade:

Unpacking openoffice.org-help-en-us [...]
dpkg: error processing
/var/cache/apt/archives/openoffice.org-help-en-us_2.0.2-1ubuntu2_all.deb
(--unpack):
trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/openoffice/help/en/default.css', which
is also in package openoffice.org-help-en
dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
Errors were encountered while processing:
/var/cache/apt/archives/openoffice.org-help-en-us_2.0.2-1ubuntu2_all.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code

As a result, I can't make progress, and my box is in a horribly broken
state. Suggestions, anyone?



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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 21:41:17 -0600
From: "Patrick Siglin" <poison@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Help with dv cam
To: Ubuntu Help and User Discussions <ubuntu-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <20060316034114.M72348@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 13:42:28 +1100, Shelagh Manton wrote
I have a panasonic nv gs150 which has both firewire and usb2 i/o. I'm
trying to extract something I taped. I have both friewire and usb2
installes on my computer. I have followed instructions on this list
about
getting 1394 devices up and running and insuring I have read write
access.

gscanbus works with the camera, in that it makes it play and stop
etc. Coriander doesn't like it. And kino can't find it either. Is
there a howto for dv camera somewhere I've missed? Or maybe I'll
just have to do this stuff on a windows machine.

Shelagh

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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 04:45:48 +0100
From: Vincent Trouilliez <vincent.trouilliez@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Remote Desktop : Connecting to a WinXP machine ?
To: ubuntu-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <1142480748.5453.22.camel@localhost>
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On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 21:18 -0600, Patrick Siglin wrote:
...I don't know how linux compares in the spyware and virus
part since I have only been using linux for about 3 weeks now.

I am still a newbee as well, but with a little longer experience, but
the result is very encouraging :

- Been using Linux for nearly 2 years, and the past 18 months with
Ubuntu since the day it came out. Connected to internet 24/7 for all of
that time, receiving 100+ mails every day (mostly via this very
list ! ;-), surfing the web hours a day, no anti-virus, no fire-wall,
yet I have not ever had any spyware, virus or any sort of malware, and
the web browser easily blocks ugly ad banners effortlessly as well.
So in short, it's a dream.

- I installed Windows XP this morning (had a little thing to do/test on
it). After only 30 minutes on the web (not kidding!), I got a pop up
window steal focus, telling me my computer was infected and I needed to
take immediate action. Then it started to pop-up internet Explorer
windows all over the place, with flashy porn/sex/games ads, the more
windows I closed, the more that would pop up ! After 3 minutes clicking
everywhere, it eventually calmed down, and all IE's windows were
eventually closed. 3 minutes later, it started all over again !! :-O

So really, I hardly even remotely consider going back to Windows, even
if someone paid me for it.
Sure enough, Linux (on the Desktop) has many rough edges as it's still
such a battle field and is moving so quickly as it matures and all its
numerous bits and pieces are being developed/debugged. But the strong,
positive points of Linux faaaaaaar out weight any quirk you might come
across.

Have fun :-)


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