Re: Dapper install CD won't run on my AMD64 (was: Lots of Dapper Problems)

It couldn't be to do with the hard drives? I mean do you have something
like SATA or perhaps the drive controller is dodgy. In my experience
hard drives can prevent you from booting without giving an error
messages whatsoever.

On Thu, 2006-07-06 at 10:07 -0400, Bill Atkins wrote:

I ended up just re-installing Ubuntu on my laptop from a Dapper CD.
This solved all my issues- I'm more interested in having at least one
working machine than in tracking down problems.

Unfortunately, I still can't get my desktop (the homemade AMD64) to
boot from the Dapper install CD. I've tried:

- the regular desktop CD (i386)
- the alternate CD (i386)
- the regular desktop CD (AMD64)
- using the debian-installer/framebuffer=false kernel option
- using the noapic and nolapic kernel options
- safe graphics mode
- combinations of these

The one approach I haven't tried is the alternate AMD64 install. I'll
try that if no one can come up with other suggestions.

Any more ideas on this? Mario Vukelic's link suggests that this isn't
a video-related problem. The consistency checkers all indicate that
the CD is OK. I'm not sure what the problem is here.

Bill

On 7/4/06, Mario Vukelic <mario.vukelic@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Tue, 2006-07-04 at 11:03 -0400, Bill Atkins wrote:
Thanks. I moved /etc/fonts out of the way, ...

Glad you got one step further

Still, these other issues are baffling.

They are, but I'd have it easier if I got an answer to my other
question :) Did you follow the instructions in the DapperUpgrade notes,
especially regarding making sure that (k,x)ubuntu-desktop is installed
before upgrading?
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades

Is there a better place to
look for support on these kinds of problems?

I don't think really

Is it possible to talk
to Canonical directly, or to talk to the people who make the
installation CD's?

There are commercial support options on the Ubuntu homepage somewhere,
but I don't think that's what you're asking

I guess via bug reports, but before filing one you should make sure you
followed the instructions in the upgrade notes

Even though
the machines are very different (one is an IBM ThinkPad, the other a
homebuilt AMD64 machine), they are having frustratingly similar
problems.

To me, his might hint to erroneous upgrade procedures
(DapperUpgrades? :) or a bug in Dapper you trigger for some reason

I followed the same procedure on both machines: change breezy to
dapper in /etc/apt/sources.lst, sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get
dist-upgrade.

Just to be sure: installed (k,x)ubuntu-desktop before doing that?

As another poster has noted, aptitude might be a better option than
apt-get, since it is much better at resolving dependencies.

Also, upgrading via System/Administration/Update Manager (as explained
in the upgrade notes) seems to be safer. Many people seem to have
problems doing it the CLI way. For me it went smooth though, but I
upgraded before the Flight CDs came out.

I don't know if there is a way to force Update Manager to retry now,
after the CLI approach has already failed.

I considered doing a fresh install from a Dapper install CD, but even
this caused problems for me. (...) I have a hunch this is a video card problem (ATi Radeon
9250SE), but I don't know what to do about it.

I'd think your hunch looked pretty good, had I not googled this:
http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/ATI/Radeon9xxx

Did you use the Desktop CD or the Alternate Install CD? If not the
second, it might be worth a try since it needs no X to install


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