Re: this mailing list

On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 15:28:16 -0700 Scott <geekboy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Scott Kitterman spake thusly on 11/29/2006 12:26 PM:
On Wednesday 29 November 2006 14:20, Ouattara Oumar Aziz wrote:
Not really,
I use another SMTP server . See, when Gmail find that the SMTP server
sending the mail is itself and the sender is you, it take it like a bug
which would create a loop so it doesn't take it on the mailbox.

a solution is to use a different SMTP server to send your mail (even
though it's with the gmail address) . But i kinda think there was a
setting you would do in gmail to get those mail ... hmm.. I don't
remember at all

Well, except that Gmail publishes an SPF record saying where authorized
mail
comes from:

$ dig -ttxt gmail.com

; <<>> DiG 9.3.2 <<>> -ttxt gmail.com
;; global options: printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 7878
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;gmail.com. IN TXT

;; ANSWER SECTION:
gmail.com. 224 IN TXT "v=spf1
redirect=_spf.google.com"

;; Query time: 11 msec
;; SERVER: 192.168.111.254#53(192.168.111.254)
;; WHEN: Wed Nov 29 14:23:46 2006
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 71

This means that sending from another SMTP server is going to look
suspicious
to some. See:

http://www.openspf.org/


I have to say that this is the only fault I find with Gmail. Otherwise
it's miles ahead of the competition.

But I find it a *big* problem. So much so that I abandoned Gmail for use
with mailing lists. There have been numerous complaints to Google on
the subject and I've read discussions on the subject several times in
Gmail groups.

Google is convinced that it's a "feature". I don't know of anyone else
who agrees.

I gather 'it' is Gmail filtering out your list posts, not Gmail having an SPF record?

Mailman has a similar (it filters out mailing list posts that you are directly addressed on)
feature that works on a per subscriber basis. It was default on for, I think, one release.
The outcry was substantial and it now defaults to off. I know of no one that's turned it on.

I'd say that supports your position.

Scott K

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