RE: ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 31, Issue 269
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- Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 19:46:31 -0700
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Today's Topics:
1. sa-learn (John Dangler)
2. Re: OpenOffice 2.2 Released - Ubuntu? (NoOp)
3. Re: Ubuntu Server with LTSP in real life (Michael T. Richter)
4. Re: Possible upgrade problem (Jim Smith)
5. Re: sa-learn (NoOp)
6. Re: Network Manager and ADSL Dynamic IP (NoOp)
7. Re: Network Manager and ADSL Dynamic IP (L M Nicolosi)
8. Re: sa-learn (John Dangler)
9. Re: sa-learn (NoOp)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 20:16:21 -0400
From: John Dangler <jdangler@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: sa-learn
To: Ubuntu User List <ubuntu-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Well, I've been moving messages to 'Possible_Spam' for the last 6 hours,
and running:
sa-learn --spam --mbox ./Possible_Spam
against that mailbox...
On average, I still get 60 messages every hour which I recognize as
spam, yet sa-learn doesn't seem to get it yet...
Is there a point in time where SA begins to actually take a shot at
handling this?
I'd like to teach it --ham as well, but the last time I ran this against
my Inbox, it said that it read 3,200 messages (which is everything in
mbox, including the spam, and those directories aren't listed _under_
inbox).
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 17:18:25 -0700
From: NoOp <glgxg@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: OpenOffice 2.2 Released - Ubuntu?
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On 03/30/2007 05:29 AM, Felipe Figueiredo wrote:
On Friday 30 March 2007 01:04:15 NoOp wrote:
OOo 2.2 has just been released today: http://www.openoffice.org/
http://download.openoffice.org/2.2.0/index.html
Any plans for updates using this version vs the 2.2(rc3) version?
Or are they the same?
Updated today to 2.2 final - thanks Matthias & team :-)
As an added point - why are the Dapper and Edgy versions so far
behind 2.2?
This is never asked/answered too many times, is it? Dapper is LTS, so
it must be stable in the sense of a non-changing environment. This
means packages will retain their version whenever possible, and only
security packages backported. So for the next two years, all Dapper
installations will remain with the same version of every package
(except on the exceptions, of course).
I see. So *that* is the reason why it'll be stuck at 2.02 - thanks for
pointing that out...
http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/dapper/editors/openoffice.org
The problem is resolved by uninstalling 2.0x and installing 2.1 or 2.2
directly from OOo. However, 2.02 came and went some time ago & it would
be nice to run 2.1 or 2.2 from the Ubuntu repositories in Dapper.
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 09:05:36 +0800
From: "Michael T. Richter" <ttmrichter@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Ubuntu Server with LTSP in real life
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On Fri, 2007-30-03 at 03:37 -0500, Brian Fahrlander wrote:
Second, Paul, that's very cool; I started in LTSP back whenusers
Etherboot had just changed over, probably about 1996-97. I had 12
running old tired 486's in a lumber yard, and only a couple of things
caused me grief:
Aren't diskless workstations just another word for "single point of
massive failure"? I've never understood the appeal in this day and age
where you can get old P/P2 (and even P3) hardware complete with disk for
a song and a dance. What am I missing?
--
Michael T. Richter <ttmrichter@xxxxxxxxx> (GoogleTalk:
ttmrichter@xxxxxxxxx)
We should sell bloat credits, the way the government sells pollution
credits. Everybody's assigned a certain amount of bloat, and if they go
over, they have to purchase bloat credits from some other group that's
been more careful. (Bent Hagemark)
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 18:03:48 -0700
From: Jim Smith <jim@xxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Possible upgrade problem
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Gabriel Dragffy wrote:
Jim Smith wrote:edgy.
I have been asked to upgrade a friend's computer from dapper to
SuSEThis is a triple boot AMD64 system: Ubuntu 6.06 (default boot), SuSE
10.2 & WinXP Home. Booting is presently controlled by GRUB in the
thepartition. I can see a problem arising with this configuration. The
upgrade to Edgy will install a new kernel, which will be added to
menu.lst in the Ubuntu partition. If the old kernel is removed in
canupgrade, this could leave the system unbootable. If not of course I
toboot the old kernel, go in and copy the version of the new kernel, go
sureSuSE and add the new kernel using YaST. A simpler choice would be to
make GRUB in the Ubuntu partition the default, but I am not quite
how to do this. I just need to be able to boot Edgy, then I can add
WinXP and SuSE by hand if necessary.
Thank you
Jim
When you upgrade it will install a new kernel, so you are correct in
that regards. However, it will not remove your previous kernel (from
Edgy) so you should still be able to boot. It would be best if you can
do the update and then copy the new lines from menu.lst in Ubuntu andI was actually thinking of doing that the other way round. Then I could
append them to the menu.lst on SuSe.
install the bootloader from Ubuntu into the MBR. All I need is to have
Ubuntu boot. I can copy the WinXP from this system (or from memory) and
then append SuSE to menu.lst. SuSE is only experimental on that system.
Ubuntu is most important and is what that person uses the most.
Many thanks
Jim
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 18:15:03 -0700
From: NoOp <glgxg@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: sa-learn
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On 03/30/2007 05:16 PM, John Dangler wrote:
Well, I've been moving messages to 'Possible_Spam' for the last 6hours,
and running:against
sa-learn --spam --mbox ./Possible_Spam
against that mailbox...
On average, I still get 60 messages every hour which I recognize as
spam, yet sa-learn doesn't seem to get it yet...
Is there a point in time where SA begins to actually take a shot at
handling this?
I'd like to teach it --ham as well, but the last time I ran this
my Inbox, it said that it read 3,200 messages (which is everything in
mbox, including the spam, and those directories aren't listed _under_
inbox).
Since installing SA yesterday, I've received 40 more spams; every one
except the one that I mentioned in my other post yesterday has been
automatically flagged as spam and automatically moved to the Junk
folder. I've received no false positives yet.
Note:
- Running Feisty
- Evolution 2.10.0
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 18:28:46 -0700
From: NoOp <glgxg@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Network Manager and ADSL Dynamic IP
To: ubuntu-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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On 03/29/2007 10:06 PM, L M Nicolosi wrote:
A couple of days ago upgraded to Feisty and can't auto connect to ADSL
provider anymore.connection
Network Manager reports DNS correctly (probably from
System/Administration/Network) but assigns an IP for a (non existent)
local net such as: 192.168.1.10 / 192.168.1.63.
After "poff dsl-provider" and "pon dsl-provider" in terminal,
is restored and dynamic IPs are correctly assigned such as:to
201.1.152.58 (local) / 200.100.11.252 (remote).
Plog and Ifconfig confirm true net status.
Network Manager keeps reporting active network but with the same fake
local IPs.
Kept etc/network/interfaces trimmed to the minimum with no reference
eth, but it didn't seem to make any difference but clear the
System/Administration/Network/WiredConnections option.
Previous 6.10 version was working perfectly with pppoeconf.
Did not find this bug reported anywhere. Maybe anything related to
previous scripts left by 6.10 install?
L M Nicolosi
Today's updates allowed me to remove network-manager and
network-manager-gnome _without_ uninstalling ubuntu-desktop. Apparently
they've been unbundled from the meta package.
Reconfigured my static wired IP's in System|Administration|Networking,
check to make sure all was working, rebooted (hard boot) and viola! all
of my networking works again at startup :-)
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 23:06:21 -0300
From: L M Nicolosi <lmario@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Network Manager and ADSL Dynamic IP
To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
<ubuntu-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <460DC21D.1070506@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sorry for the entry.
Its working fine.
Boot up today and it suddenly came to life. Maybe the latest upgrades
had something to do with it.
Tks,
Lucio
NoOp wrote:
On 03/29/2007 10:06 PM, L M Nicolosi wrote:ADSL
A couple of days ago upgraded to Feisty and can't auto connect to
provider anymore.
Network Manager reports DNS correctly (probably from
System/Administration/Network) but assigns an IP for a (non existent)
connectionlocal net such as: 192.168.1.10 / 192.168.1.63.
After "poff dsl-provider" and "pon dsl-provider" in terminal,
is restored and dynamic IPs are correctly assigned such as:
201.1.152.58 (local) / 200.100.11.252 (remote).
Plog and Ifconfig confirm true net status.
Network Manager keeps reporting active network but with the same fake
tolocal IPs.
Kept etc/network/interfaces trimmed to the minimum with no reference
Apparentlyeth, but it didn't seem to make any difference but clear the
System/Administration/Network/WiredConnections option.
Previous 6.10 version was working perfectly with pppoeconf.
Did not find this bug reported anywhere. Maybe anything related to
previous scripts left by 6.10 install?
L M Nicolosi
Today's updates allowed me to remove network-manager and
network-manager-gnome _without_ uninstalling ubuntu-desktop.
they've been unbundled from the meta package.all
Reconfigured my static wired IP's in System|Administration|Networking,
check to make sure all was working, rebooted (hard boot) and viola!
of my networking works again at startup :-)
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 22:28:30 -0400
From: John Dangler <jdangler@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: sa-learn
To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
<ubuntu-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 18:15 -0700, NoOp wrote:
On 03/30/2007 05:16 PM, John Dangler wrote:hours,
Well, I've been moving messages to 'Possible_Spam' for the last 6
againstand running:
sa-learn --spam --mbox ./Possible_Spam
against that mailbox...
On average, I still get 60 messages every hour which I recognize as
spam, yet sa-learn doesn't seem to get it yet...
Is there a point in time where SA begins to actually take a shot at
handling this?
I'd like to teach it --ham as well, but the last time I ran this
inmy Inbox, it said that it read 3,200 messages (which is everything
_under_mbox, including the spam, and those directories aren't listed
Edgyinbox).
Since installing SA yesterday, I've received 40 more spams; every one
except the one that I mentioned in my other post yesterday has been
automatically flagged as spam and automatically moved to the Junk
folder. I've received no false positives yet.
Note:
- Running Feisty
- Evolution 2.10.0
Evolution 2.8.1
Well, maybe I'm doing something (or note doing something) that you
aren't/are... but I just looked in junk, and there are almost 1600
messages in there... WOW! (only 3 marked as spam)... Could I just empty
the junk folder and see if all of this activity is SA and not leftover
from me putting them there?
(If that's really SA's doing - even though it's not marking them all
explicitly yet, I'm really impressed with the performance...)
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 19:40:42 -0700
From: NoOp <glgxg@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: sa-learn
To: ubuntu-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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On 03/30/2007 07:28 PM, John Dangler wrote:
On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 18:15 -0700, NoOp wrote:hours,
On 03/30/2007 05:16 PM, John Dangler wrote:
Well, I've been moving messages to 'Possible_Spam' for the last 6
againstand running:
sa-learn --spam --mbox ./Possible_Spam
against that mailbox...
On average, I still get 60 messages every hour which I recognize as
spam, yet sa-learn doesn't seem to get it yet...
Is there a point in time where SA begins to actually take a shot at
handling this?
I'd like to teach it --ham as well, but the last time I ran this
inmy Inbox, it said that it read 3,200 messages (which is everything
_under_mbox, including the spam, and those directories aren't listed
emptyEdgyinbox).
Since installing SA yesterday, I've received 40 more spams; every one
except the one that I mentioned in my other post yesterday has been
automatically flagged as spam and automatically moved to the Junk
folder. I've received no false positives yet.
Note:
- Running Feisty
- Evolution 2.10.0
Evolution 2.8.1
Well, maybe I'm doing something (or note doing something) that you
aren't/are... but I just looked in junk, and there are almost 1600
messages in there... WOW! (only 3 marked as spam)... Could I just
the junk folder and see if all of this activity is SA and not leftover
from me putting them there?
(If that's really SA's doing - even though it's not marking them all
explicitly yet, I'm really impressed with the performance...)
If they are there, they are most likely spam. Just click on one and see
if the "Not-Junk" lights up. I'd delete them all, empty your trash,
close Evo & start fresh. Can't hurt & you'll certainly soon find out if
it is working.
BTW: do you have the catch-all turned on for your email address? If so,
turn it off & I'm sure that you'll stop receiving so many.
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