Re: sa-learn

On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 19:40 -0700, NoOp wrote:
On 03/30/2007 07:28 PM, John Dangler wrote:
On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 18:15 -0700, NoOp wrote:
On 03/30/2007 05:16 PM, John Dangler wrote:
Well, I've been moving messages to 'Possible_Spam' for the last 6 hours,
and running:
sa-learn --spam --mbox ./Possible_Spam

against that mailbox...

On average, I still get 60 messages every hour which I recognize as
spam, yet sa-learn doesn't seem to get it yet...

Is there a point in time where SA begins to actually take a shot at
handling this?

I'd like to teach it --ham as well, but the last time I ran this against
my Inbox, it said that it read 3,200 messages (which is everything in
mbox, including the spam, and those directories aren't listed _under_
inbox).





Since installing SA yesterday, I've received 40 more spams; every one
except the one that I mentioned in my other post yesterday has been
automatically flagged as spam and automatically moved to the Junk
folder. I've received no false positives yet.

Note:
- Running Feisty
- Evolution 2.10.0
Edgy
Evolution 2.8.1

Well, maybe I'm doing something (or note doing something) that you
aren't/are... but I just looked in junk, and there are almost 1600
messages in there... WOW! (only 3 marked as spam)... Could I just empty
the junk folder and see if all of this activity is SA and not leftover
from me putting them there?
(If that's really SA's doing - even though it's not marking them all
explicitly yet, I'm really impressed with the performance...)

If they are there, they are most likely spam. Just click on one and see
if the "Not-Junk" lights up. I'd delete them all, empty your trash,
close Evo & start fresh. Can't hurt & you'll certainly soon find out if
it is working.

BTW: do you have the catch-all turned on for your email address? If so,
turn it off & I'm sure that you'll stop receiving so many.
Right! I selected one of the junk messages, and the 'not junk' did
light... I emptied junk and trash, and restarted Evo to see what happens
when everything there is clean.

Since I don't see anywhere within account preferences or mail
preferences to set catch-all, I'm guessing I don't have this set (or
don't understand where to find it)...

I had a rule that I found on one of the many pages I was reading that
pipes every email to the spamassassin command, and if the return is not
0, to mark it read and move it to a different folder that I had set up.
I'm guessing I no longer need this rule (it didn't ever move any
messages to that folder anyway).

On a more general note of catching spam, is it even necessary to have
rules written in Evo, if I :
a) Setup a folder within my mbox to move messages that I want marked as
spam, but have not been caught yet by SA
b) setup a cron job to run sa-learn --spam on that folder, say, once
every hour?





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