Re: MMS streams

do you have gstreamer0.8-mms installed? It should work fine in totem
with that.

On 7/17/07, NoOp <glgxg@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 07/17/2007 08:54 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote:
On 17/07/07, Lee Tambiah <leetambiah@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 7/15/07, Dotan Cohen <dotancohen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

At my university we watch lectures in Windows Media Player via
MMS streams. The streams are over 2GB in size, so saving the
entire stream is not an option. I need a player that will play
the stream, including Fast Forward and Rewind functions. Is there
a linux player that can do that? I have had no luck with mplayer
or vlc.

This is the output of Mplayer: [dotancohen@localhost ~]$ mplayer

mms://video9.technion.ac.il/Courses/Solid-Mech1/Solid%20Mechanics%201%20-01.wmv

MPlayer 1.0rc1-4.1.1 (C) 2000-2006 MPlayer Team CPU: Intel(R)
Core(TM)2 CPU T7200 @ 2.00GHz (Family: 6, Model: 15,
Stepping: 6) CPUflags: MMX: 1 MMX2: 1 3DNow: 0 3DNow2: 0 SSE: 1
SSE2: 1 Can't open joystick device /dev/input/js0: No such file
or directory Can't init input joystick mplayer: could not connect
to socket mplayer: No such file or directory Failed to open LIRC
support. You will not be able to use your remote
control.

Playing
mms://video9.technion.ac.il/Courses/Solid-Mech1/Solid%20Mechanics%201%20-
01.wmv.
STREAM_ASF, URL:

mms://video9.technion.ac.il/Courses/Solid-Mech1/Solid%20Mechanics%201%20-01.wmv

Resolving video9.technion.ac.il for AF_INET6... Couldn't resolve
name for AF_INET6: video9.technion.ac.il Resolving
video9.technion.ac.il for AF_INET... Connecting to server
video9.technion.ac.il[ 132.68.1.27]: 1755... connection timeout
Resolving video9.technion.ac.il for AF_INET6... Couldn't resolve
name for AF_INET6: video9.technion.ac.il Resolving
video9.technion.ac.il for AF_INET... Connecting to server
video9.technion.ac.il[132.68.1.27]: 80...

It seems as though it cannot find the server, however Windows
Media Player 11 in VMWare loads and displays that video just
fine. There is no AU sniffing at the server, I checked that with
the university's computer department.

Dotan Cohen

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I have to say that the ideal solution is your university not using
Windows Media for this! Why? Well they are an education facility,
Students may use Linux (as you do) and Macs (alternative
platforms). It would make more sense for the university to deploy a
solution which runs on all Platforms, now OGG would be nice, but if
they want the proprietry route why the heck didn't they go for
realplayer.


Actually, after talking to the IT department, I am convinced that MMS
_is_ the right tool for the job. It is the only streaming media
format that allows fast forward, rewind, and fast/slow playback, all
as if the file were local. It really is amazing, and before I dug
into the details I wondered how it was all done. It is an M$
technology (and an abandoned technology! WMP 11 doesn't support it!),
but it is very, very good.

This is simular to the IBBC Player which is now being challenged by
the open source community, I would also complain to the university
too! Content is for all not just for Micorosft Windows Users.
Microsoft will not make it work on other platforms as it is there
way to create a lock in.

You are 100% correct. Unfortunately, no open source tool currently
supports the features that MMS provides. If you can suggest something
that supports FF, rewind, and fast/slow playback then I'll certainly
suggest it. I'm serious.

You can get some Windows Media content to play using the VLC and
MPlayer, but much of it fails . Its a pain in the ass but the real
blame here is the University deploying a windows centric solution
in the first place! Typical.......

Well, if I download the whole 2 GB file to the drive I can play it in
anything. However, that is not practical. Hence the need for
streaming.

Dotan Cohen

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Interesting. Perhaps your university can convince Novell & MS to do an
opensource linux version.
Seriously; even Realmedia have an opensource version of their software
that works quite well. And given that Novell seems to be well in bed
with MS given their patent agreement, I suspect that they will come out
with something eventually.


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