Re: Question
- From: SYNass IT Ubuntu / Linux <i-ubux@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:15:08 +0800
On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 07:36 +0200, Alexandra Zaharia wrote:
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 4:48 AM, SYNass IT Ubuntu / Linux
<i-ubux@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
If RAM is big enough ONE don't even need this /SWAP !!
You do need it :-) I have 3 GB of RAM on my computer and still keep
the 2 GB swap partition I had back when having 1 GB of RAM. You can
never know when you'll be using a lot of memory-requiring apps that
will need swap space.
OK & Sorry: My fault to express it correctly:
Of course I am recommending a /SWAP-less installation !
Our systems have between 1 to 2GB RAM and I always set /SWAP with 2GB !!
;-)
My idea was more just like following:
prim 1: ntfs / WIn installation, untouched / just shrink to 18-20GB
prim 2/u: /BOOT or
prim 2/w: ntfs / Win Data partition, data sharing with Ubuntu too or log
1w:
extended
log 1/w: ntfs / same as prim 2w !?
log 2: /SWAP
log 3: /HOME (not mentioned in this discussion) Ubuntu data !!!
log 4: /ROOT
I am not sure what would be better:
1) Generally: Win data partition prim 2w or log 1w as primary or logical
and if primary, after or before prim 2u: /BOOT !?
As I see it, it doesn't really matter except if you desperately need
another primary partition.
Well, not desperately do I need another primary partition !
I have one more OS I want to install with this configuration and
one more primary partition is needed because of the following
special reason:
1st prim C: partition / ntfs contains Win XP PRO !
2nd prim C: partition / hpfs will contain my OS/2 Warp 4 installation !!
plus the environment discussed above to run my Ubuntu/s or other
*ux'es !?
With Ubuntu/s or uther *ux'es I mean additional research or test
installations !!!
I always do include watching the device names too and try to group them
together properly !
For the above it means:
sda1 = OS / Win
sda2/u = /BOOT Ubuntu, shareable with more Linux'es !?
sda2/w = Data Win
sda3 = extended
sda5/w = alternatively Data Win
sda5/u = /SWAP Ubuntu/ shareable with more Linux'es !?
sda6 = /HOME Ubuntu/shareable with more Linux'es !?
sda7 = /ROOT OS Ubuntu
If you want your device names to take up on a particular scheme such
as the one you described above, you need to take extra care at the
planning partitioning stage. But why bother doing so, when you can
just specify a 'human' mount point for each partition that will be
easy to remember? For instance, consider that in your above scheme
somehow you mess up and fail to make sda5 your Windows data partition
and that somehow this Windows data partition comes up as 'sda6': what
would stop you to mount it at each boot under /media/windata instead
of /media/sda6 ?
Well, OS/2 and Win do work with drive letters !
The problem is that both do not recognize each other: hpfs and ntfs !!
The usable common format is FAT32 !!!
I have to watch very carefully to avoid any driveletter shiftings with
these two OS'es !!
This is a reason why I try to group all respective partitions / device
names very carefully !
sda/b+ = /ROOT for more Linux'es !? possibly on another HDD or USB
media !?
You don't want to mix up things. "/root" is a directory under "/" that
is the root user's home. Furthermore, a partition with a Linux flavor
installed onto it (such as sda7 = mount point for / in your example
above) can only be used by its Linux flavor - if you want to install a
2nd Linux distro, you would of course need another partition to mount
as the 2nd flavor's "/" :-) Of course that inside "/ for Linux flavor
1" you can mount the other partition as /media/linux2 and viceversa.
possibly on another HDD or USB media
Yes indeed. I currently have 2 HDDs and Ubuntu - the OS I use most
often of the 4 installed - is installed onto the 2nd HDD, on hdb6. A
Debian install is found on hda6, FreeBSD on sda1 and Windows XP on
sda2. So yes, you can boot Ubuntu from a slave HDD and in my case,
sdb6 - the partition onto which it's installed - is a logical one.
OK and again sorry for my misinterpretation:
With /ROOT I meant the real ROOT = / and not the directory / folder
of /root within / !!!
Your explanation is very interesting for the ongoing planning of my
future configuration:
My thoughts were:
With /BOOT and its /GRUB with menu.lst I may have a common source with
the entries
to all my OS'es !?
Primarily always Ubuntu 8.40 the productive environment
Secondarily and upon choice any other OS like another Ubuntu as test
environment ...
... or OS/2 or whenever really needed Win XP PRO !
Just a hint for the OP - if your Vista OS is *NOT* the 64b version
one, you might want to try out Ext2FS - a tool which allows you to
mount your ext2/3 partitions under Windows with read/write access.
You can find the app here: http://www.fs-driver.org ; a guide, maybe:
http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2007/03/mount-ext2-or-ext3-partition-in-windows.html
I mention this because I successfully used it on 2 different machines
(XP though...) without any troubles. It *should* work with Vista too -
provided, again, you don't have the 64b version.
Vista, no, God beware !!! ;-)
Well, all our system configurations have been almost Win-FREE the last
13 years !!
Almost bought NO M$ SW, except with my first Win WfW 3.11 notebook in
1995 !
Tests with Win 95 ended with FAT errors within less than 3 days and
I changed to OS/2 Warp Version 3, OS/2 Warp Connect Version 3 and
finally
OS/2 Warp Version 4 I am still using without Blue Screen Bonus's. ;-)
Basically it hasn't needed any forced RE-installation/s for more than 10
years
always running troublefree and smooth !
Yeah, Ubuntu may send OS/2 into pension here and
as a Ubuntu / Linux newbie I am currently discovering and working for it
now !
HTH, Alex
Yes & thanks a lot, Alex, your feedback helps me a lot ! :-)
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