Re: [ubuntu-users] Second of several questions

J & K Spaulding

Thank you for your suggestion but I think you have missed an important
point. First, I employ SAMBA (both client and server) on my LAN where
ever I can. No, I cannot use SAMBA for this problem because there is no
way of declaring these ntfs hard drives as shares operating under
Ubuntu. If there is a way of so declaring these ntfs drives as SAMBA
shares operating under Ubuntu then "great" but I don't think that is the
case.

Remember, as I earlier stated, these ntfs drives are automatically set
up by Ubuntu as:

"

My problem is the ntfs hard drives. Anything I store on them under
Ubuntu operations looks like:
-rwxrwx--- 2 root plugdev 371386 2006-07-08 22:18 xinha-latest.zip

"
When I do the mount command this is what I get:

/dev/sde1 on /media/sde1 type fuseblk
(rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)

So, you see that it seems to me there is no way of declaring these ntfs
hard drives (operating under Ubuntu) as SAMBA shares so they could be
accessible to another Windows (XP, etc.) machine. The problem is not
accessing these ntfs drives on the local machine (in this case the dual
boot XP-Ubuntu machine. The problem is other Windows (XP, etc.) machines
accessing these ntfs drives. Other Windows machines seem unable to write
and execute even though the permissions allow this. I think the reason
is that MS Windows OS can't handle these permissions and ownership
classifications and I cannot alter them because they are inherent in the
way Ubuntu deals with ntfs drives.

If I am wrong then give me the SAMBA syntax command line that will allow
operation of these ntfs drives as SAMBA shares operating under Ubuntu
and accessible by means of write and execute modes by the other Windows
machines on the LAN.

Hope you or someone else has a solution. Otherwise, I think I will
reformat these ntfs hard drives to Linux ext3 format and then declare
them as shares served by the Ubuntu SAMBA SERVER and therefore available
to LAN Windows machines (share clients) as SAMBA MOUNTS generated by the
Ubuntu SAMBA server.

Thanks, Ted


J & K Spaulding wrote:
Have a look at samba. I can't test to see if you can share a mounted ntfs
file system but you should be able to.

There are also a number of gui front ends to samba that you can use.

Hope this helps.

John.

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[mailto:ubuntu-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ted Hilts
Sent: Thursday, 3 April 2008 11:13 AM
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Subject: [ubuntu-users] Second of several questions

In order to try ubuntu I set up a dual boot with Ubuntu and XP. Soon
after, I was using Ubuntu with special downloads and Firefox add-ons
for most of my more important tasks. Before I installed Ubuntu on an 80
Gig partition I had been using the XP machine's hard drives (C
drv,DVDrw, and 6 hard drives in a SCSI configuration) to store
backup's. I still want to do this backup function using some of the
hard drives but under Ubuntu not under XP. I also want to keep the dual
boot arrangement for the time being.

My problem is the ntfs hard drives. Anything I store on them under
Ubuntu operations looks like:
-rwxrwx--- 2 root plugdev 371386 2006-07-08 22:18 xinha-latest.zip

This is okay for local machine disk operations but other XP machines
cannot do write and execute access to these ntfs hard drives operating
under Ubuntu. These hard drives need to be set up as shares. When using
XP OS they are declared as shares but when using Ubuntu OS they cannot
be declared as shares -- or so it seems to me. So in order to do this it
seems I have to reformat any ntfs hard drives in a Linux format (or
fat32) in order to use them as "shares" under Ubuntu operation. I have
with other Linux systems stored XP and other Windows backups. I cannot
be sure that this was done without some hidden problems

My question is based on the above. What is the best Linux file system
which would support the storing both Linux and Windows(95,98,XP)
backups??? And....is there any real problem in moving files back and
forth from one file system to a different file system as I am planning
to do??? Have I missed something important???

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks, Ted




J & K Spaulding

Thank you for your suggestion but I think you have missed an important
point. First, I employ SAMBA (both client and server) on my LAN where
ever I can. No, I cannot use SAMBA for this problem because there is no
way of declaring these ntfs hard drives as shares operating under
Ubuntu. If there is a way of so declaring these ntfs drives as SAMBA
shares operating under Ubuntu then "great" but I don't think that is the
case.

Remember, as I earlier stated, these ntfs drives are automatically set
up by Ubuntu as:

"

My problem is the ntfs hard drives. Anything I store on them under
Ubuntu operations looks like:
-rwxrwx--- 2 root plugdev 371386 2006-07-08 22:18 xinha-latest.zip

"
When I do the mount command this is what I get:

/dev/sde1 on /media/sde1 type fuseblk
(rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)

So, you see that it seems to me there is no way of declaring these ntfs
hard drives (operating under Ubuntu) as SAMBA shares so they could be
accessible to another Windows (XP, etc.) machine. The problem is not
accessing these ntfs drives on the local machine (in this case the dual
boot XP-Ubuntu machine. The problem is other Windows (XP, etc.) machines
accessing these ntfs drives. Other Windows machines seem unable to write
and execute even though the permissions allow this. I think the reason
is that MS Windows OS can't handle these permissions and ownership
classifications and I cannot alter them because they are inherent in the
way Ubuntu deals with ntfs drives.

If I am wrong then give me the SAMBA syntax command line that will allow
operation of these ntfs drives as SAMBA shares operating under Ubuntu
and accessible by means of write and execute modes by the other Windows
machines on the LAN.

Hope you or someone else has a solution. Otherwise, I think I will
reformat these ntfs hard drives to Linux ext3 format and then declare
them as shares served by the Ubuntu SAMBA SERVER and therefore available
to LAN Windows machines (share clients) as SAMBA MOUNTS generated by the
Ubuntu SAMBA server.

Thanks, Ted


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