RE: 8.04 with Vista Home Premium




Newer HP laptops come pre-installed with either windows xp or windows vista. by default, the hard drive will contain two partitions - one for the OS installation and the other for the OS recovery files. installing if u have a version of "partition magic" that is compatible with windows vista, you can adjust the size of the OS installation partition. then restart your pc for the changes to take effect. you can then install ubuntu.

alternatively, u can burn your pc recovery files to onto a cd/dvd. once done you are free to delete all partitions and create your own custom partition sizes for windows and ubuntu.

cheers
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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Differences in new version of Frifox (stan)
2. Re: 8.04 with Vista Home Premium (NoOp)
3. Grub overlaping (Anna EdwARds)
4. Re: Undo 7.10 upgrade to 8.04 ? (NoOp)
5. Re: mucho mensaje repedidos (NoOp)
6. Re: Undo 7.10 upgrade to 8.04 ? (elmo)
7. Re: Alpha, beta, .... (Pastor JW)
8. what is ssh-sgent? (andy baxter)
9. Re: Finding hardware identifier (NoOp)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 14:26:01 -0400
From: stan
Subject: Re: Differences in new version of Frifox
To: Chris Mohler
Cc: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"

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On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 12:46:09PM -0500, Chris Mohler wrote:
On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Justin Gruenberg
wrote:
On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 10:27 AM, stan wrote:
I just upgraded a couple of machines to 8.04. I notice one significant
difference in the version of Frifox bundled with this release. The widget on
the tool bar next to the Back button that allowed one to open up a list of
the recent history, and jump back several levels at once is gone.

How can I get this back?


It's moved in between the forward and refresh button, if I got you right.

Yeah - I think the idea is to use the same list to move forward OR
back. Messed me up for a second there too...

Yes, that seems to be it Thanks.

Now if only Google Browser synch worked withthis version :-(
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 03 May 2008 11:43:11 -0700
From: NoOp
Subject: Re: 8.04 with Vista Home Premium
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On 05/03/2008 03:17 AM, Rick wrote:
Installing Ubuntu with XP should pose no problems. At least it has not in the
past. I just need more room on a second hard disk, the purchase of which, my
wife wisely says, is contingent upon my losing 5 kilos.

The urgent question has to do with my HP Pavilion dv600 laptop with Vista Home
Premium loaded. There's plenty of room, but Vista uses a different partition
paradigm from that in XP, and potentially is more complicated to use as a
partner in a dual boot. I have read that 8.04 installs with Vista and have seen
reference to such dual boots in the Users' correspondence, but when I tried an
installation yesterday, there was no recognition of special conditions for
Vista. Ultimately I canceled the installation, because I feared losing the
existing Vista installation.

I would very much appreciate advice from some of you who have already installed
8.04 in a dual boot with Vista.

Thanks in advance.


Perhaps:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ubuntu+%2Bdualboot+%2Bvista

will help?




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Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 13:49:21 -0500
From: Anna EdwARds
Subject: Grub overlaping
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I have a grub machine with access to easily twenty thousand booting operating systems on 4 thousand machines, and i was wondering. Is it possible for grub to boot to another grub (or lilo, if necessary)? I want to be able to sort in a manner like a dichotominous key that you dont see everything at once. I know it seems crazy that i did this (i have been using linux siNce 2005) but i did. Can someone help me?

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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 03 May 2008 11:56:57 -0700
From: NoOp
Subject: Re: Undo 7.10 upgrade to 8.04 ?
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On 05/03/2008 07:46 AM, elmo wrote:
Rick Knight wrote:


/boot/grub/menu.lst | grep Ubuntu


title Ubuntu 7.10, (CD)(hda2, hd0,1)
title Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic (recovery mode)
title Ubuntu 7.10, memtest86+
title Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic (DVD) (hd0,2)
title Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic (recovery mode)
title Ubuntu 7.10, memtest86+

(This shows that I have the CD and DVD versions of 7.10 )

Can you list (and post here) the contents of /boot

Rick


Contents of boot

grub Yesterday at 18:12
abi-2.6.22-14-generic 02/12/2008
abi-2,6,24-16-generic 04/10/2008
config-2.6.22-14-generic 02/12/2008
config-2.6.24-16-generic 04/10/2008
System.map-2.6.22-14-generic 02/12/2008
System.map-2.6.24-16-generic 04/10/2008



From a terminal:

man update-grub

read that & maybe even print.

then

sudo update-grub

and you should be back in business.





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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 03 May 2008 11:59:11 -0700
From: NoOp
Subject: Re: mucho mensaje repedidos
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On 05/03/2008 04:11 AM, simon jose alfonzo ortega wrote:
siempre el mismo mensaje 40 y 50 veses al dia


Ok here is a different one:

always the same message you see 40 and 50 a day




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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 03 May 2008 15:01:11 -0400
From: elmo
Subject: Re: Undo 7.10 upgrade to 8.04 ?
To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"

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Justin Gruenberg wrote:
On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 8:56 PM, elmo wrote:

What is the significance of "No LSB modules are available"? That
line doesn't appear in NoOP's example.


It was my example, and as I said, I omitted it. Here is what I see
(without me omitting lines):

justin@zerolaptop:~$ lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: Ubuntu
Description: Ubuntu 8.04
Release: 8.04
Codename: hardy
justin@zerolaptop:~$

It is normal it says no modules are available. You can read more
about LSB here: http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/LSB


Lets get this back on track to get you a solution. Do you really want
to downgrade to 7.10? Or are you just concerned that 8.04 didn't
install correctly?


It's not that wanted to downgrade back to 7.10 per se. I thought
perhaps if I could redo the upgrade from 7.10 afresh, the up grade
would install correctly and I'd be able to see evidence of that.. As it
is, everything, the bootup menu, the desktop still
look like 7.10 and menu.lst shows no evidence of 8.04. However, I know
that 8.04 is hiding there, somewhere.

I still would like to have the upgrade working correctly.

elmo



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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 12:03:44 -0700
From: Pastor JW
Subject: Re: Alpha, beta, ....
To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"

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On Saturday 03 May 2008 11:18:00 am Sandy Harris wrote:
Is there a way to find out which pieces of 8.04 are
in what state? Alpha, beta, whatever? Seems to
me we need one.

I don't think there is one, how would one search? I suppose a 0.* match would
reveal less than released versions but then is the version number standard
that well observed? What is the difference between alpha numbers and beta
ones?

Firefox 3.x is a beta, but easily replaced with the
current 2.x stable release, via Synaptic.

I for one was happy to see Firefox 3 as in 7.10, Firefox 2.0.0.14 and previous
never would open most of the websites I frequent. I had to rely on
Konqueror. I did not feel any need to reinstall the 2.x series of Firefox on
my computer, ...and I have found no fault so far with Firefox 3.

People have reported problems with gnash. My
add/remove app says my 8.04 has an Alpha of
that, but . http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
says a beta came out in March. If I installed
gnash and id ugrades, would I get the beta? How
would I know that, short of "try it and see"?.

There must be a different than gnash tool to play swf as I don't have gnash
installed here.

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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 03 May 2008 20:11:59 +0100
From: andy baxter
Subject: what is ssh-sgent?
To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"

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Hello,

Could someone tell me what ssh-agent is? I have the following process
running on my computer, and I'm not sure what it does:

root@monkey:~# ps ax | grep 5474
5474 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/bin/dbus-launch
--exit-with-session x-session-manager
16932 pts/1 R+ 0:00 grep 5474


thanks,

andy baxter.



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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 03 May 2008 12:17:23 -0700
From: NoOp
Subject: Re: Finding hardware identifier
To: ubuntu-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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On 05/03/2008 06:09 AM, Nils Kassube wrote:
Wade Smart wrote:
Im was reading in the Ubuntu forums about tweaking my web cam and they
keep talking about this hardware identifier. As an example:
Vender Name VenderID Product ID
Logitech 48 0x046d 0x0890

But none of these posts every say how they find this out.

In a terminal type this command:

lsusb

Then look for the line which seems to be the device in question. Another
option would be to compare the output of the lsusb command with and
without the device plugged in. The line which has changed is for the
device in question.


Nils


Adding to that; after you've found the device, you can then use the
verbose mode to show you more info on the device itself. Example:

$ lsusb
Bus 005 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 09da:0006 A4 Tech Co., Ltd Optical Mouse WOP-35 /
Trust 450L Optical Mouse
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000

So I want to see the added info on the mouse (Bus 001 Device 002: ID
09da:0006), so I ask for the verbose output of the device on Bus 002:

~$ lsusb -s 002 -v

Bus 001 Device 002: ID 09da:0006 A4 Tech Co., Ltd Optical Mouse WOP-35 /
Trust 450L Optical Mouse
Device Descriptor:
bLength 18
bDescriptorType 1
bcdUSB 1.10
bDeviceClass 0 (Defined at Interface level)
bDeviceSubClass 0
bDeviceProtocol 0
bMaxPacketSize0 8
idVendor 0x09da A4 Tech Co., Ltd
idProduct 0x0006 Optical Mouse WOP-35 / Trust 450L Optical Mouse
bcdDevice 0.01
iManufacturer 1 A4Tech
iProduct 2 USB Optical Mouse
iSerial 0
bNumConfigurations 1
Configuration Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 2
wTotalLength 34
bNumInterfaces 1
bConfigurationValue 1
iConfiguration 3 HID-Compliant Mouse
bmAttributes 0xa0
(Bus Powered)
Remote Wakeup
MaxPower 100mA
Interface Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 4
bInterfaceNumber 0
bAlternateSetting 0
bNumEndpoints 1
bInterfaceClass 3 Human Interface Devices
bInterfaceSubClass 1 Boot Interface Subclass
bInterfaceProtocol 2 Mouse
iInterface 0
HID Device Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 33
bcdHID 1.10
bCountryCode 0 Not supported
bNumDescriptors 1
bDescriptorType 34 Report
wDescriptorLength 52
Report Descriptors:
** UNAVAILABLE **
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x81 EP 1 IN
bmAttributes 3
Transfer Type Interrupt
Synch Type None
Usage Type Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0004 1x 4 bytes
bInterval 10
Device Status: 0x0000
(Bus Powered)






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