Re: Same installation problem over and over again.
- From: Charlie Kravetz <cjk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 08:04:39 -0600
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Nils Kassube <kassube@xxxxxxx> wrote:
elmo wrote:
Andy wrote:
The instructions at
<https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto> seem to be pretty
simple to follow.
I disagree that the instructions are simple to follow. Look at it the
way a Window user would or anyone who has never had to create a UBUNTU
CD. At first reading, they may appear simple but they are misleading.
QUOTE: "Ubuntu is distributed over the Internet as CD image files,
called ISOs. To install Ubuntu, you first need to burn its ISO file
onto a CD"
This is the exact wording from that website.
OK, so we look in our CD burner for a way to burn the ISO to a CD.
Instead, we find something that will burn an IMAGE, not an ISO.
Oops, wrong one?????
Well, you quote only the first few words of the page. The instructions how
to burn the CD follows after that part. Granted, there is no word how to
do it with Nero, but if you follow the instructions it should work. If
you use another program than suggested by the instructions (i.e. Nero for
you) you may find out yourself how to do it with that particular program.
But if you can't find out how to do it with that other program, better
follow the given instructions and don't insist on using something else.
Of course the alternative option would be to write instructions for Nero
and have those included to the existing instructions.
Since Nero is the CD/DVD burner many Windows machines have, my comments
use Nero as an example. I know there are other burners available for
Windows and I'll bet none of them will burn an ISO to a CD but they can
burn the IMAGE.
It seems that you think there is a difference between an image file and an
iso file, but they are the same. If you think that is worng, please
explain what you think is the difference between the two. And are there
two different commands in Nero to burn an image or an ISO file? Sorry, I
don't have Nero, so I can't check it myself.
The process basically involves two things, extracting
the files from ISO and simultaneously burning them as IMAGE.
No, you may not extract anything from an ISO image to make it a working
bootable CD.
This is largely a semantics problem. Wrong choice of words, using ISO
and IMAGE interchangeably.
The words image and ISO are actually interchangeable here. Maybe there is
an additional / different meaning for one of the words in the Windows
world, but then I have no idea, what the difference might be.
Nils
I'm using "I" because it is easier here. I do NOT use windows myself:
I think what one of the biggest issues with this is that as a windows
user, I know how to burn CD's. I go to the Ubuntu home page[1], read
about the desktop edition, click the link to more[2], read again. Then I
click download, make my selection[3], and the download starts. I see a
link about how to burn a cd[3], I don't need to follow that link,
because I already know how to burn a cd. When the install fails, I
become frustrated because the installation cd is no good, even though I
did it right.
Now, how do I know why it failed? I have ?? years burning cd's in
windows, never had any problems before, and did the same thing two or
three times. When I come here and ask for help, I'm referred to a
webpage that doesn't even mention the burner program I'm using! I
haven't used the program there, and the one I have has worked for me
for ?? years.
Why can't I get the ISO file to burn right?
REPEAT: I'm using "I" because it is easier here. I do NOT use windows
myself
If the download page had a simple line or two stating "You can not copy
this file to a cd, you must burn the image or burn the ISO instead"
a lot of "Why can't I " would be avoided.
[1] http://www.ubuntu.com/
[2] http://www.ubuntu.com/products/WhatIsUbuntu/desktopedition
[3] http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
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