Re: screen resolution problems with Hardy Herron

NoOp wrote:

On 09/26/2008 03:34 PM, Michael "TheZorch" Haney wrote:


If Linux suddenly had the same hardware, driver and commercial software
support that Windows and Mac have right now I'm positive that within 5
to 10 years Linux would usurp Windows as the dominant PC operating
system.


Oh nonsense. I have the occasion (quite frequently) to transfer Windows
hard drives to new chassis, and install Windows OS's.

Just 5 days ago I installed Windows on an Intel system and Windows
didn't have a clue or driver for the NIC, the onboard graphics, and the
DVD/CD. I ended up having to use an Airlink 101 USB Ethernet device to
get it to talk to the internet so that I could then go and download the
drivers from Intel to complete the installation.


Yes, between somewhat better support from hardware vendors, and much better
support from the Linux kernel developers than MS can provide, I think for
anything but very specialized or very new hardware, _driver_ support on
Linux is as good as any OS.

It's the commercial software support we're missing, and I very much doubt
we'll ever have that.

It took me 2 days to
complete the installation; hardware drivers, software updates, hardware
driver updates (again) after the MS service pack updates. Then, after
all of that and about 10 reboots (required after nearly each update):

Ah, come now - you mostly get told you need to reboot, but you can
say "No" - which if you're about to install something else, you might as
well. Still, it's nothing like letting apt handle all your software.

Have you _ever_ installed a Windows OS? Recently? Didn't you already
have this discussion on this list previously?

My last install was XP Home, 6+ hours for a standalone version, and longer
for the one I installed into a VM. I've _never_ spent that long installing
Linux, though sometime in the last millenium I did have trouble with Corel
Linux and my graphics adapter. The install was fairly quick, but all the
fuss getting the adapter to reset after every boot was tedious :-(

Here's a challenge for you: reformat your existing hardrive(s) and
install your Windows from scratch. Then install your other standard
applications (office, graphics, graphics editing programs, scanning
programs, pdf reader programs, music players, video player, internet
software, IMS sofware, calendar programs, etc.) on that fresh Windows
install. Let us know how you come out; how long it took you, what worked
'out-of-the-box' and what did not, etc.

And that's with an OS that you already know _can_ support your hardware. I
can't believe the number of times I've re-installed Windows and then had to
go and get drivers, because they aren't included in Windows itself -
especially annoying on machines that came with an OEM version of the OS
that _should_ have included the drivers.

Then, and only then, install Ubuntu on a second hard drive or
partition, and come back and tell us about your experience.

--
derek


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