Re: Should I add this Repo?
- From: Leonard Chatagnier <lenc5570@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 08:45:39 -0700 (PDT)
Hi Mario,
See below:
--- On Mon, 10/27/08, Mario Vukelic <mario.vukelic@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Mario Vukelic <mario.vukelic@xxxxxxxxxxx>Well there are some but not my model that I can tell. Perhaps because my MFC-490CW is a brand new release printer with built-in wifi internet printing and the drivers simply haven't arrived downstream yet. If you really want to know, suggest you ask the Ubuntu Developers instead of me, an ordinary home user.
Subject: Re: Should I add this Repo?
To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions" <ubuntu-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Monday, October 27, 2008, 1:14 AM
On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 20:08 -0700, Leonard Chatagnier wrote:
Brother requires you to use the --force option inorder to install
their printer drivers on Linux/Ubuntu. They have thebest Linux/Ubuntu
support
Somehow the first and the second part of your sentence
don't fit
together. If they had "the best" linux support,
their drivers would
simply be in the distro's repos
Cus I don't know unless it's because of it's newness.
In my case it was --forec-architecture that was needed. See below for more input. Also, I wasn't trying to refute what you said and was replying specifically to Dotan's post about it being so dangerous which in my case, I don't think so and I do trust Brother and it's linux/Ubuntu support.So the option can't be all that bad when it isabsolutely required to
make my printer work on Hardy 64 bit.
Strictly speaking it is meaningless to talk about "the
--force option",
that's why I originally wrote
"--force-things". dpkg has many
--force-<thing> options, some of them more dangerous
and some of them
less so.
I have no idea about 32 vs 64 bit as I never ran a 64 bitThink not. Visit the links I gave on another post. The links give explicit detailed instructions of how to install my specific model and it worked first time. That's better support than I've seened on any distro or printer manufacturer. And that's what I call *Best* support. Email your printer manufacturer and even if they do support Linux not to mention Ubuntu specifically bet you wont get a reply within 24 hours with your questions answered and including the specific, detailed fix for you issue. I owned 2 Epson MFP before the Brother and couldn't get any help when the printer just quit printing from OO.o 2.4 nor got any help googling. I think things will be different with Brother based on my two initial contacts. I still don't know what is wrong with the last Epson as it still does everything but print from a program like OO.o.
system, so
far. But it still sounds like a badly-created package.
I think that you may be under the impression that since I used the Brother site to install my printer that the Ubuntu drivers for it wont get downstream into the distro. That I suspect is incorrect based on what "aptitude search/show brother" listed on my system. What's surprising is that none of the list is automatically installed(all have "p" for the list) and I have rebooted many times before and after installing Brother.
Just for reverence, here are the --force-<thing>
options:
mario@chronic: ~ $ dpkg --force-help
dpkg forcing options - control behaviour when problems
found:
warn but continue:
--force-<thing>,<thing>,...
stop with error:
--refuse-<thing>,<thing>,... |
--no-force-<thing>,...
Forcing things:
all [!] Set all force options
downgrade [*] Replace a package with a lower
version
configure-any Configure any package which may
help this one
hold Process incidental packages even
when on hold
bad-path PATH is missing important
programs, problems
likely
not-root Try to (de)install things even
when not root
overwrite Overwrite a file from one package
with another
overwrite-diverted Overwrite a diverted file with an
undiverted
version
bad-verify Install a package even if it fails
authenticity
check
depends-version [!] Turn dependency version problems
into warnings
depends [!] Turn all dependency problems into
warnings
confnew [!] Always use the new config files,
don't prompt
confold [!] Always use the old config files,
don't prompt
confdef [!] Use the default option for new
config files if
one
is available, don't prompt. If
no default can
be found,
you will be prompted unless one of
the confold
or
confnew options is also given
confmiss [!] Always install missing config
files
breaks [!] Install even if it would break
another package
conflicts [!] Allow installation of conflicting
packages
architecture [!] Process even packages with wrong
architecture
--force-architectue is the dpkg option Brother used in the printer setup and in spite of the dire warning I suspect I would have had to use it in a pure Ubuntu setup. I may be wrong here just being an ordinary home user so let the experts comment on it. Apparently since the option is part of the official dpkg options there is some need for it when having to run dual architectures and cupswrapper to get the 32 bit drivers to work in 64 bit Ubuntu.
overwrite-dir [!] Overwrite one package's
directory with
another's file
remove-reinstreq [!] Remove packages which require
installation
remove-essential [!] Remove an essential package
WARNING - use of options marked [!] can seriously damage
your
installation.
Forcing options marked [*] are enabled by default.
Leonard Chatagnier
lenc5570@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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