Re: CAN IT MOVE OR NOT MOVE?

Paul O'Malley - gnu's not unix - wrote:
Michael Falkenburg wrote:
Hello,

Back when I installed Heron the question was asked if I wanted to install from within Windows.
Ok, why not?
So time has continued, and now I'm running Ibex but I'm(showing my "laziness")getting really tired of scrolling down the Grub menu to XP, opening that, and then choosing Ubuntu.
I know it's only a matter of seconds, really, but you know how it can be :-) .

Here's the BIG question:

Is it possible to move the Ubuntu folder O-U-T of Windows (I'm not looking for drag-&-drop), so that when all is said and done I can have Grub just showing 2 choices right from the get-go and both will still work as they do now?

Thanks-in-advance,

Mischa Falkenburg

firstly an obviousness ;-)

you can't change what you have and keep it the same ;-)
and it would be against good practice
but ...

let us backup your existing settings before a mistake is made

you can then use a live cd to work out how to get out of that one ;-)

in a terminal do this
sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst.backup

that is a lower case L not 1

to edit grub in ubuntu do this
sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst

again that is a lower case L not 1


then you will see "default NUMBER"
the number is 0 is the first bootable partition
0, 1, 2, 3 is the order of events


count down to the grub entry for your ubuntu

the problem with what you suggest comes from introduction of new kernels after security fixes

so what I suggest you do is choose the highest kernel number from ubuntu

don't change the order of things or you risk breaking your machine in a really uncomfortable way

count to that and make that the "default number" remembering to count from 0, for the first bootable program in your menu.lst

you could of course remove windows and do a new clean ubuntu install and have lots of fun that way

Regards,
P.





Hello Paul,

Thanks for your quick response. I admit that I was trying to wait to read what other suggestions there might have been.

I'm taking a BIG liberty in sending you the /boot/grub/menu.lst as an attachment with the hope that you have the time to look through it,

because,

I understand (I think) trying to '...see "default NUMBER" ' per your instructions.
The first one I see is on line 6...## default num

But as far as "count down to the grub entry for your ubuntu", I'm close-to-clueless as to what is supposed to happen next...

What I see on my boot screen (which you probably can tell from the /menu.lst) is:
Ubuntu 8.04.1 kernel 2.6.24-21-rt
(I'll skip the (recovery mode lines)
-19-rt
(rec.m)
8.04.1 memtest86+
Other operating systems:
Microsoft Windows XP Professional
Ubuntu 8.04 kernel 2.6.24-19-generic (on/dev/sdb1)
(rec. mode)
-18-generic(on/etc...)
(rec. etc...)
2.6.22-14-generic (on ditto)


If I do nothing the top line will boot, and that is Ubuntu Studio.
Scrolling down to the XP line, hitting enter gives me the choices of XP Pro and Ubuntu (which is now Intrepid...usta b Hardy)

Not part of our discussion is cleaning-out the -19 through -14 kernels. That's something for another time (perhaps).

Thnx,
Mischa


------------------------------------------------------------------------

# menu.lst - See: grub(8), info grub, update-grub(8)
# grub-install(8), grub-floppy(8),
# grub-md5-crypt, /usr/share/doc/grub
# and /usr/share/doc/grub-doc/.

## default num
# Set the default entry to the entry number NUM. Numbering starts from 0, and
# the entry number 0 is the default if the command is not used.
#
# You can specify 'saved' instead of a number. In this case, the default entry
# is the entry saved with the command 'savedefault'.
# WARNING: If you are using dmraid do not use 'savedefault' or your
# array will desync and will not let you boot your system.
default 0

## timeout sec
# Set a timeout, in SEC seconds, before automatically booting the default entry
# (normally the first entry defined).
timeout 10

## hiddenmenu
# Hides the menu by default (press ESC to see the menu)
#hiddenmenu

# Pretty colours
#color cyan/blue white/blue

## password ['--md5'] passwd
# If used in the first section of a menu file, disable all interactive editing
# control (menu entry editor and command-line) and entries protected by the
# command 'lock'
# e.g. password topsecret
# password --md5 $1$gLhU0/$aW78kHK1QfV3P2b2znUoe/
# password topsecret

#
# examples
#
# title Windows 95/98/NT/2000
# root (hd0,0)
# makeactive
# chainloader +1
#
# title Linux
# root (hd0,1)
# kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2 ro
#

#
# Put static boot stanzas before and/or after AUTOMAGIC KERNEL LIST

### BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
## lines between the AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST markers will be modified
## by the debian update-grub script except for the default options below

## DO NOT UNCOMMENT THEM, Just edit them to your needs

## ## Start Default Options ##
## default kernel options
## default kernel options for automagic boot options
## If you want special options for specific kernels use kopt_x_y_z
## where x.y.z is kernel version. Minor versions can be omitted.
## e.g. kopt=root=/dev/hda1 ro
## kopt_2_6_8=root=/dev/hdc1 ro
## kopt_2_6_8_2_686=root=/dev/hdc2 ro
# kopt=root=UUID=2AE8D0B6E8D0820D loop=/ubuntu/disks/root.disk ro

## default grub root device
## e.g. groot=(hd0,0)
# groot=(hd0,0)/ubuntu/disks

## should update-grub create alternative automagic boot options
## e.g. alternative=true
## alternative=false
# alternative=true

## should update-grub lock alternative automagic boot options
## e.g. lockalternative=true
## lockalternative=false
# lockalternative=false

## additional options to use with the default boot option, but not with the
## alternatives
## e.g. defoptions=vga=791 resume=/dev/hda5
# defoptions=quiet splash

## should update-grub lock old automagic boot options
## e.g. lockold=false
## lockold=true
# lockold=false

## Xen hypervisor options to use with the default Xen boot option
# xenhopt=

## Xen Linux kernel options to use with the default Xen boot option
# xenkopt=console=tty0

## altoption boot targets option
## multiple altoptions lines are allowed
## e.g. altoptions=(extra menu suffix) extra boot options
## altoptions=(recovery) single
# altoptions=(recovery mode) single

## controls how many kernels should be put into the menu.lst
## only counts the first occurence of a kernel, not the
## alternative kernel options
## e.g. howmany=all
## howmany=7
# howmany=2

## should update-grub create memtest86 boot option
## e.g. memtest86=true
## memtest86=false
# memtest86=true

## should update-grub adjust the value of the default booted system
## can be true or false
# updatedefaultentry=false

## should update-grub add savedefault to the default options
## can be true or false
# savedefault=false

## ## End Default Options ##

title Ubuntu 8.10, kernel 2.6.27-7-generic
root (hd0,0)/ubuntu/disks
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-7-generic root=UUID=2AE8D0B6E8D0820D loop=/ubuntu/disks/root.disk ro quiet splash initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.27-7-generic

title Ubuntu 8.10, kernel 2.6.27-7-generic (recovery mode)
root (hd0,0)/ubuntu/disks
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-7-generic root=UUID=2AE8D0B6E8D0820D loop=/ubuntu/disks/root.disk ro single
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.27-7-generic

title Ubuntu 8.10, kernel 2.6.24-21-generic
root (hd0,0)/ubuntu/disks
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-21-generic root=UUID=2AE8D0B6E8D0820D loop=/ubuntu/disks/root.disk ro quiet splash initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-21-generic

title Ubuntu 8.10, kernel 2.6.24-21-generic (recovery mode)
root (hd0,0)/ubuntu/disks
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-21-generic root=UUID=2AE8D0B6E8D0820D loop=/ubuntu/disks/root.disk ro single
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-21-generic

title Ubuntu 8.10, memtest86+
root (hd0,0)/ubuntu/disks
kernel /boot/memtest86+.bin

### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST

# This is a divider, added to separate the menu items below from the Debian
# ones.
title Other operating systems:
root


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS
# on /dev/sda1
title Microsoft Windows XP Professional
root (hd0,0)
savedefault
chainloader +1


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing
# linux installation on /dev/sdb1.
title Ubuntu 8.04, kernel 2.6.24-19-generic (on /dev/sdb1)
root (hd1,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-19-generic root=UUID=afe0fc43-e49d-4e85-913c-d5a03932b192 ro quiet splash initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-19-generic
savedefault
boot


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing
# linux installation on /dev/sdb1.
title Ubuntu 8.04, kernel 2.6.24-19-generic (recovery mode) (on /dev/sdb1)
root (hd1,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-19-generic root=UUID=afe0fc43-e49d-4e85-913c-d5a03932b192 ro single initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-19-generic
savedefault
boot


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing
# linux installation on /dev/sdb1.
#title Ubuntu 8.04, kernel 2.6.24-18-generic (on /dev/sdb1)
#root (hd1,0)
#kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-18-generic root=UUID=afe0fc43-#e49d-4e85-913c-d5a03932b192 ro quiet splash #initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-18-generic
#savedefault
#boot


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing
# linux installation on /dev/sdb1.
#title Ubuntu 8.04, kernel 2.6.24-18-generic (recovery mode) (on /#dev/sdb1)
#root (hd1,0)
#kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-18-generic root=UUID=afe0fc43-#e49d-4e85-913c-d5a03932b192 ro single #initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-18-generic
#savedefault
#boot


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing
# linux installation on /dev/sdb1.
#title Ubuntu 8.04, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic (on /dev/sdb1)
#root (hd1,0)
#kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=afe0fc43-#e49d-4e85-913c-d5a03932b192 ro quiet splash #initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
#savedefault
#boot


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing
# linux installation on /dev/sdb1.
#title Ubuntu 8.04, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic (recovery mode) (on /#dev/sdb1)
#root (hd1,0)
#kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=afe0fc43-#e49d-4e85-913c-d5a03932b192 ro single #initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
#savedefault
#boot


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing
# linux installation on /dev/sdb1.
title Ubuntu 8.04, memtest86+ (on /dev/sdb1)
root (hd1,0)
kernel /boot/memtest86+.bin savedefault
boot


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