Re: ubuntu-users Digest, Vol 57, Issue 91

how do i install itunes on ubuntu
can anyone tell me please

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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Inappropriate tone on this mailing list and requirement
for governance (marc)
2. Re: Free (as in freedom) pdf editor (Graham Todd)
3. Re: Mailing list woes (marc)
4. Re: How can I make my scanner permissions permanent?
(Heike C. Zimmerer)
5. Re: Mailing list woes (marc)
6. Re: Interesting suggestions about quoting and posting (marc)
7. Re: Sound Problems (marc)
8. Re: Wubi Install: was Re: (unknown) (Charlie Gray)
9. Re: Inappropriate tone on this mailing list and requirement
for governance (Oliver Grawert)
10. Re: Inappropriate tone on this mailing list and requirement
for governance (Oliver Grawert)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 07:18:53 +0000 (UTC)
From: marc <gmane@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Inappropriate tone on this mailing list and requirement
for governance
To: ubuntu-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <gtu20s$c6$2@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Lisi Reisz said:

On Wednesday 06 May 2009 20:36:58 David Fox wrote:
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Barry Smith <bnsmith001@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
One point to think about -- if "ass" in in the badword list, should
it also match A.s.S. or any substring created after punctuation is
removed? ?Moderation, and automated scanning, should include the full

A precedent exists that makes this filtering stuff undesirable. There
was a time when Prodigy was in vogue (anyone remember them) and one
person in particular got really upset because he couldn't tell people
on Prodigy that his family member graduated "magna cum laude" from a
university -- because the posting had the word "cum" in it. Sheesh.

In England we have counties (administrative districts) called Middlesex,
Essex and Sussex. (Wessex is now obsolete.) Woe betide any schoolchild
who is trying to use the Internet for his or her homework if the subject
is the geography (or history or sport) of the Saxon area of England. The
usual solution is to let the child use the (unprotected) parental
computer. ;-) (The north Saxons called themselves the north folk rather
than the north Saxons, so Norfolk slips under the net.)

So I am not in favour of using that type of screening software on this
list!

Obligatory mention of Scunthorpe.

The whole idea of banning words is just silly. And banning substrings
bonkers.

I find it hard to understand why we are even discussiong this.

--
Best,
Marc




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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 09:01:38 +0100
From: Graham Todd <grahamtodd2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Free (as in freedom) pdf editor
To: ubuntu-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <20090507090138.0f727789@graham-desktop>
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On Wed, 06 May 2009 15:47:36 -0700
NoOp <glgxg@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I've certainly no objection for paying for a well written linux
program (I use Turboprint printer drivers) do you?
[snipped]

I do not.

Whilst I have no problem, in principle, for paying for Linux software,
most that you pay for are restricted by the licence and terms of use.

The same is true of most "freeware" available for use in Windows - no
cost but a restrictive licensing environment - which I do not class as
"free".

That is the litmus test: can I pass it on to whomsoever I please? Can
I examine its source code to learn more about coding? Does the
software allow me to alter it for my own purposes (even if I do not
wish to)? Nothing in this list you note has anything to do with the
cost of the item.

--

Graham Todd



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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 08:04:17 +0000 (UTC)
From: marc <gmane@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Mailing list woes
To: ubuntu-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <gtu4m1$9hh$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Lorenzo Taylor said:

<RANT>
Actually, what I find most annoying about Blackberries and IPhones is
not the posting issue, but rather the stupid advertising taglines that
have no "--" above them that cannot be removed.

Sent from my IPhone
Sent from my T-Mobile Blackberry.

Who gives a flying swine flu? Isn't that what the UserAgent: and
X-Mailer: headers are for?

Is there no way to let these companies know that this is nothing but a
major annoyance and does *not* make me want to go out and buy one of
their devices? In fact, it makes me *not* want to buy them. Back in the
day, I used to avoid all webmail services because they all did that.
Most of them still do, but at least they know how to separate their
taglines from the message. Not that that makes it any better, but at
least they do separate their taglines, unlike these mobile devices.
</RANT>

You've not spent much time with marketing droids, have you? :-)

--
Best,
Marc




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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 10:04:55 +0200
From: "Heike C. Zimmerer" <nospam08q2@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: How can I make my scanner permissions permanent?
To: ubuntu-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <gtu4u1$d9s$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Tommy Trussell <tommy.trussell@xxxxxxxxx> writes:

Heike, if you are running Ubuntu 9.04 "Jaunty," did you upgrade from a
previous version, or is it a clean install?

It's an upgrade, so I cannot be of any help as to when the scanner group
(dis)appeared.

I'm wondering if I could create a UDEV rule that identifies the device
as a scanner (in addition to a printer). Maybe then the "scanner"
permissions might get created by Ubuntu.

This is possible. Use

udevadm info --query=path --attribute-walk --path=/sys/class/usb_device/...

(replace the dots, you can also try other queries) to find an expression
which matches your scanner better than the current global usblib rule.
Then replace the expression around the '==' in the usblib rule by what
you've found.

Heike




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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 08:08:54 +0000 (UTC)
From: marc <gmane@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Mailing list woes
To: ubuntu-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <gtu4um$9hh$2@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Markus Sch?nhaber said:

Just two remarks: My "Regards mks" doesn't add
any value to the topic, so there's no point in quoting it.

And if your preceded it with dash-dash-space (see below), then most mail
and usenet replies would automatically *not* quote it. So it would never
be quoted.

--
Best,
Marc




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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 08:14:46 +0000 (UTC)
From: marc <gmane@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Interesting suggestions about quoting and posting
To: ubuntu-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Message-ID: <gtu59m$9hh$3@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Lorenzo Taylor said:

Usually I choose not to quote whenever possible, but instead make my
answer clear enough that the question is very easily deducible from the
reply, usually by paraphrasing or restating the question in the reply,
kinda the same way I have been doing in my Esperanto correspondence
courses.

But this is a different form of communication. Heck, when speaking
Spanish (at least in Spain), context is presumed way beyond English; one
work is often sufficient where I'd use ten in English!

The problem with reformatting the thread is that you lose context and the
attribution of content. Unless you are making a specific point on an
isolated part of the text, then this is a "bad thing", imo.

--
Best,
Marc




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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 08:23:30 +0000 (UTC)
From: marc <gmane@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Sound Problems
To: ubuntu-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Charlie Gray said:

If you have a laptop and have no sound through the speakers then check
for sound through your headphones? If yes, I can help. There is a
well documented fix for this problem in 8.10 and 9.04.

-rich


Thank you for the reply, but I have just this-minute fixed it :)

Funnily enough, it was as simple as the sound was muted. But, many sound
programs didn't tell me that, not even alsamixer. Luckily I ran
padevchooser and found out for myself.

Yup, I had the same problem. It took me a week to find a "mixer" that
indicated that sound was muted, input in my case.

I'll say it again: audion in Kubuntu is a complete mess.

--
Best,
Marc




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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 10:00:18 +0100
From: Charlie Gray <cgray@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Wubi Install: was Re: (unknown)
To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
<ubuntu-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <4A02A322.8040105@xxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

NoOp wrote:
On 05/06/2009 01:55 PM, philipstine@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
I am trying to install Ubuntu 32 bit OS using Wubi. I currently have
Windows Vista 32 bit. The instructions on Wubi are not very clear on
installing the 32 bit Ubuntu.

These might help:

http://wubi-installer.org/
http://wubi-installer.org/faq.php
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=396526
[Wubi Forum FAQ (read this first)]
http://wubi-installer.org/support.php

Also Is it possible to run the 64 bit
version of Ubuntu on a 32 bit system?


No.

But do rememember, if your computer come with 32bit Windows Vista, that
doesn't imply that the actual computer is 32bit. Generally, even 64bit
computers come with 32bit Operating Systems.

As 64bit Operating Systems are quite horribly unsupported, as far as I
know.


--
Charlie Gray - <cgray@xxxxxxxxx>
PGP Key ID - 0xC28B6177
?Ya basta!

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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 11:24:25 +0200
From: Oliver Grawert <ogra@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Inappropriate tone on this mailing list and requirement
for governance
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hi,
Am Donnerstag, den 07.05.2009, 11:29 +1000 schrieb Res:
I don't have that much time, I appear for days on end, then dissapear for
a week or three,
thats a lame excuse on a mailing list like that :) and thats essentially
why we should have a team, not everybody will be around all the time,
the moments where the whole team is needed to make a decision or a vote
will be rare i assume, at other times other members of the team will
care ...

and you and I both know I have pissed off so many net
nazis here, Osama Bin Laden has a better chance of being on "the team"
then I :)
thats exactly my point, someone like you will care that the team doesnt
turn into a power abusing dictatorship but will slap the fingers of the
other team members if they go to far ...

ciao
oli
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 11:26:48 +0200
From: Oliver Grawert <ogra@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Inappropriate tone on this mailing list and requirement
for governance
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hi,
Am Mittwoch, den 06.05.2009, 13:50 -0400 schrieb Lorenzo Taylor:
The problem I have with unsubscribing repeat offenders who consistently
flame
others or get nationalist/racist/inappropriate flame wars started is that
there
is nothing to keep them from being able to subscribe a new email address
and do
it all again.
that is the reason why you need humans in the loop ... a human will spot
a certain style of flaming and can act on a re-subscriber while a
program/filter/black-/greylist will not ...

ciao
oli
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