Re: Simple Backup Config


well I must be very learned because I have sure made a pot full of mistakes with this software.

happy holidays

Bob


On Thu, 24 Dec 2009, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:

Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 16:51:51 +0100
From: Johnny Rosenberg <gurus.knugum@xxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
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To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
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Subject: Re: Simple Backup Config

2009/12/24 <accessys@xxxxxxxxx>:
On Thu, 24 Dec 2009, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:

2009/12/24  <accessys@xxxxxxxxx>:

including /var is what causes the most problems because that is where it
stores the backup, so if you include /var you keep exponentially keep
rebacking up your backup and filling your hard drive.  1-2-4-8-16-32-64
etc.
Bob

Yes, that's probably right, and when that happens you'll probably get
an error message saying that the drive is full. Then you start to
debug your settings and somehow you find out that ”aah, /var shouldn't
be included”, so you edit your settings, erase your drive and try
again. It's not a much bigger deal than that, is it?

well I've found that when the drive is full and you get the error messages
it will no longer allow you to open the "simple backup config file"  and the
permissions are set only for root.   so to delete the files I first had to
find the offending files which got a "tgz" suffix and then had to go thru
chown, so I could get permission (or sudo su) then rm each file seperately.
 took a fair amount of grunt work and terminal time.  someone not as
comfortable working in terminal or not familiar with the commands could get
really flummuxed and frustrated.

Well, I was more thinking in terms of formatting the whole drive, but
it's only a good idea if you use the whole drive for backup, having
partitioned it as one big partition.

Okay, so this can be somewhat more complex than first meets the eye,
but the best way to learn (not always perhaps) is by making mistakes
and learn from it.

Johnny Rosenberg





By the way, I once included /var in my backups and I never had any
problems with it, except that I thought that it was unnecessary so I

you probably left the "exclude files over 100mb" option on but I think the
default is off.....maybe changed since I downloaded it

didn't include it the next time I rewrote my backup script (which do
backups for me with rsync, by the way) from scratch. These days I only
backup $HOME and I exclude some folders that only take unnecessary
time to back up.
Johnny Rosenberg

which is pretty much the same way I "tamed" this program but it is an easy
mistake to make and the man that comes with it doesn't have any warning
about the overfull harddrive problem.


Bob







On Wed, 23 Dec 2009, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:

Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 20:23:08 +0100
From: Johnny Rosenberg <gurus.knugum@xxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
    <ubuntu-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"
    <ubuntu-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Simple Backup Config

2009/12/23 NoOp <glgxg@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:

On 12/22/2009 04:43 AM, Kipton Moravec wrote:
...

Look in the menu System -> Administration -> Simple Backup Config

That is where it is on 8.04 LTS. Do not see it installed in the
default
9.10.

Please be aware that if not configured properly Simple Backup can
easily
fill your hard drive with backup files until you run out of space
(check
the archives).

What's the problem? If it happens, just erase your hard drive, change
your settings and try again. How hard can it be?
Of course I assume that when you try things like this the very first
times, you use an external EMPTY hard drive (or other kind of external
memory).

So maybe my suggestion earlier was totally wrong. Will this work?

Include: /
Exclude: /media

Or

Include: /home, /var, /etc, /usr, /bin, /lib, /boot, /dev, /initrd,
/opt, /proc, /root, /sbin, /srv, /sys
Exclude: (Leave empty)

The second alternative won't backup files in /, but maybe those few
files are not very important.

Johnny Rosenberg


So follow the instructions/docs carefully:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/SimpleBackupSuite

<http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+%2Bsbackup+%2Bdisk+space&btnG=Search&complete=0&hl=en&sa=2>
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sbackup/+bug/42142
[sbackup doesn't check for/prevent full disk - 2006 bug that still
hasn't been fixed]


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