Re: File permissions?
- From: Jim Byrnes <jf_byrnes@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2009 08:24:04 -0600
Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
2009/12/25 Jim Byrnes <jf_byrnes@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
2009/12/25 Jim Byrnes <jf_byrnes@xxxxxxxxxxx>:They were put there by the installaion of Jedit. They are really not
I've been using Ubuntu for about two weeks now and am starting to getIs there a special reason why the files have to be located there? For
used to it. However, coming from an OS/2\Windows world file permissions
seem to be giving me some grief.
Maybe if someone could tell me how to do a couple of specific tasks it
would become clearer to me. I have Jedit loaded on all three of my
OS's. I have modified some mode files on the other OS's I would like to
use on Ubuntu. I copied them to a shared folder on Ubuntu but I can't
copy them to /usr/share/jedit/modes which is where Jedit will look for them.
most tasks, your personal files should be located somewhere in your
home directory (home folder), called $HOME, which is an environment
variable containing the address of your home folder. The ”~” means the
same thing. So ~/MyFolder is the same thing as $HOME/MyFolder, which
is the same thing as /home/Jim/MyFolder if your user name is Jim.
If you still want to place your file at /usr/share/jedit/modes you
have to do it with root permissions, unless you want to change the
owner of the folder.
personal files. They control syntax highlighting depending upon the
type of file you are editing. I just modified a couple of them to suit
my taste.
Oh… in that case I would just edit them by opening them in my
favourite editor as root in the terminal, for instance:
gksudo gedit /usr/share/jedit/modes/FileName
Since you say you are a beginner, I will also mention the convenient
use of the ↹ key (TAB) (hopefully this message will not be ”converted”
with another character encoding than UTF-8, otherwise you can't see my
TAB characters and it will look somewhat confusing…). To input the
line above, you will probably only need to do this:
gk↹s↹ ge↹ /u↹sh↹je↹m↹/Fi↹↵
↹ expands what you typed so far. If there are several possibilities to
expand, you can hit ↹ twice to see the options.
I see the tabs but it took me a couple of readings before I realized
exactly what you were demonstrating for me.
You can copy, cut and paste in the terminal, but the default
shortcuts are Shift+Ctrl+x, Shift+Ctrl+c and Shift+Ctrl+v rather than
just Ctrl+x, Ctrl+c and Ctrl+v. Of course you can change this if you
want to: Edit → Keyboard shortcuts.
And you can use ↑ and ↓ if you want to walk through the commands
history. ↑ taking you one command backwards and ↓ is the other way, of
course.
Oh, and another thing: The & operator puts the process in the
background, for example:
gedit MyFile&
This will open gedit with MyFile and the terminal isn't locked to it
while I am editing MyFile, so I can use it for other things at the
same time, not needing to open another terminal. The terminal first
outputs the process ID for you, in case you want to kill the process:
kill 23596
(if the process number was 23596).
Well, what's more? A lot, of course… it's also convenient to know
about the <, > and >> operators.
free -m > MyFile
This redirects the output of the free -m command to the file MyFile.
If the file exists it will be erased, created and filled with the data
from the command. If it doesn't exist it will be created and filled
with the data.
free -m >> MyFile
Data from free -m will be added at the end of MyFile.
The < goes the other way around: It use a file for sending data to the command.
To look at your textfile the ultra simple way, try this:
cat MyFile
If the file is big, one of these will be more convenient:
more MyFile
less MyFile
I prefer ”more”, but most people prefer ”less” I think, You decide
what you prefer. Both commands views the file page by page. To see the
next page, hit SPACE. Or ↵ I think.
Try this simple way to create a text file:
cat > MyTextFile
Hello world!
Hello people!
Ctrl+d
cat MyTextFile
To erase files, use the rm command (ReMove):
rm MyTextFile
rm MyFile
If you want to know more about a command, like rm for instance, do:
man rm
If you are not sure what command to use when, let's say you want to
remove a file, try:
man -k remove
(-k as in ”keyword”)
To quit the man command, just hit q to get back to your prompt.
alias is also a useful command. Maybe you think it's too much typing
to hit ”ls -lB --si” everytime you want to view the contents of a
directory. This will make it easier:
alias ll='ls -lB --si'
From now on, just type ”ll” for doing the same thing.
When you log out and login again, your aliases will be forgotten, so
you need to put all your aliases in a file that is run at every
startup. ~/.bashrc is a good one. Personally I created my own alias
file, ~/.bash-aliases, which I start from the ~/.bashrc file by just
adding the following lines in ~/.bashrc:
if [ -f ~/.bash-aliases ]; then
. ~/.bash-aliases
fi
The alias file will then be started only if it exists.
There are a few aliases pre defined. I moved mine to the alias file.
To see all your aliases, try:
alias
To remove an alias:
unalias
And we also have the beloved | character (pipe character).
Try this, for instance:
ps -e
Now try this:
ps -e | grep gnome
The last command only shows lines that contains the string ”gnome”.
See man ps and man grep for more details.
Well, that's all for now, I guess… I guess it would be better to point
to a link or something, so I'll do that too:
http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bashref.pdf
Johnny Rosenberg
You can do most things with a GUI and since other people haveThanks for the info on the gui way to do it. Sometimes the terminal can
suggested doing it in the terminal, I will try to keep more to a GUI.
If you don't have an icon for opening Nautilus (your file manager)
with root permissions, open a terminal (!) and enter:
gksudo nautilus
(sudo nautilus will also do, but then you need to enter your password
in the terminal instead of doing it in a dialogue…)
Now look for your files and move them where you want them.
When they are where you want them, right click them and click
Properties, then click the permissions tab. Here you can change the
owner of the file as well as the permissions. After changing the owner
to yourself and given yourself the proper permissions, you should be
able to do what you want with them with jedit.
If you don't have a icon for ”Nautilus as root”, you can easily create
one. Ask if you can't figure out how.
Johnny Rosenberg
be a little overwhelming to a newbie.
Regards, Jim
In that same vein, if I wanted to edit one of those files with Jedit how
could I get Jedit to open it for editing?
Thanks, I'll add this to my growing list of helpful email messages.
Regards, Jim
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