Re: Anyone tried basiclinux?
From: Day Brown (daybrown_at_hypertech.net)
Date: 10/05/03
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Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 12:18:36 -0500 To: Walter Mautner <new.10.eatallspam@spamgourmet.com>
Walter Mautner wrote:
> Day Brown wrote:
> ....
>
>>>Try find the floppy boot images on that cdrom, use rawrite to create a
>>>boot floppy with the 2.4 kernel (chose after reading the readme) and
>>>then try to install after booting from the floppy.
>>>Good Luck!
>>
>>I'll need it. the kernel 2.4 is 33 megs.
>
>
> Aaargh. Please read the doc before you start trolling. It's the source
> (c-code in textual form) together with codes for a lot of modules you
> won't ever need, and documentation you obviously never read. On the
> distro cd there are also various images to fit on a floppy. Probably one
> for cd boot, one for network, one for harddrive (loop device).
Which doc? I got the idiots guide to Linux, the compleat idiots guide to
Linux, and about another foot of publications which came with the
various distros I bought. I still remember getting the install manuals
with Redhat 5, but then realizing that that was all that I had. the
manual to install, but nothing on how to run what I had installed.
Corel, an old established software house, did a much better job of
telling a user what he needed to know; but they didnt write the distro,
they use debian. Anyway, this is a chronic debate, whether the user is
lazy, or there is just too many tons of docs too poorly organized for
users to cope with.
But in any case, I went to http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/opsys/linux/baslinux
where I find some fairly clear instructions. but then, that refers me to
links which list files I will need, and then a tgz tool, which
unfortunately is not with them. The whole project of building a distro
from scratch has that Kafka-esque feel about it, that no matter what it
is I have, I dont have all of it. Course, this is not a problem with
Linux as an os, but in the way it has evolved out of unix networks and
the market forces on distros which tend to propell it more twards eye
candy and less twards clearly instructive documentation. People should
read more of it, but part of the reason they dont, is that its so bad.
I'm not in any hurry with this, have the spare platforms to try it on,
and dont see any reason that I cant do the incremental install using
what running baslinux will teach me. We see some degree of interactivity
during the install scripts about your particular hardware and what you
want to do with it. I spoze someone will come up with something,
especially since high speed data links are getting so common, of sending
you an install disk that starts by getting you online, and then installs
the rest from the remote host, just as you'd do with a network terminal.
I see something like that in the above baslinux webpage. Then all these
issues of oddball hardware, which are so difficult to remember to
include on the CDrom, can be dealt with- with all the drivers that are
available online. The struggles folks have with oddball video or scsi
card drivers not being on their install CD would be history.
It might be nice too, to have a distro that used the same kind of color
scrollbar menu system I see so often in dos, MC, CMOS, and the various
distro install scripts, rather than KDE, gnome, or whatever. Only having
the gui driver in the background for when you wanted to run a graphic
browser or whatever. I've often seen the gui screwed up, and so
chronically so, that it's easier to start with a clean install than try
to debug it. But if the transition from the text terminal to the gui was
easier, that'd be easier to debug. All the distros give me ctrl-alt-Fx
to get to the terminal, but some dont let me back to the gui where I
left it.
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