Re: Gentoo VS. Mandrake (Please!...no wars, OK?)

From: Washed Phenom (washed_phenom_at_hotmail.com)
Date: 02/10/04

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    Joseph <1on1(remove)@email.com> wrote in message news:<pan.2004.02.08.17.55.14.37953@email.com>...

    <snip a lot that I agree with, but...>

    > Yes!...I know there's GRP...but I am talking about a stage 1 install.
    >
    > GRP installs are OK for a lot of people, but I feel that if someone is
    > going to truly understand & appreciate Gentoo, then they need to do it
    > from a stage 1 install.
    >

    Nonsense. :)

    The sole difference between a GRP install for your specific processor
    and a Stage 1 install is the psychological satisfaction of watching
    oodles of compiler output stream by your screen. This didn't help me
    understand or appreciate Gentoo at all. Yes, I DO appreciate and
    understand Gentoo, but not because of watching compiler output. You
    might be able to squeeze out a few tiny bits of performance out of a
    Stage 1 compile over and above the GRP for your processor, but the
    make.conf flags in the GRP are set pretty good already. (Maybe add
    -fomit-frame-pointer at least). And the well-worn saw of Gentoo
    forcing people to "learn Linux" is also nonsense. If you can follow
    an installation webpage, you can install Gentoo. I think this is a
    strength of the distro, not a weakness! You get to configure it how
    you want, and it isn't too difficult to install. Yes, you can learn
    with Gentoo, but you can learn with any distro if you want to. Also,
    the steps that a lot of people claim causes you to learn Linux are
    present in both the GRP and Stage 1 installs. Unless downloading and
    watching a system bootstrap causes Linux knowledge to be transferred
    to the installer's brain, I'd much rather copy over the GRP files on
    my P4 laptops, fire up KDE, and get to real *WORK*. When that work is
    done for the day, I'll emerge the updates at night. :)

    -wp

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