Re: Why everyone complains?

From: WareKala (mika.vesa_at_pp3.inet.fi)
Date: 05/20/04 

Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 22:33:11 GMT

Wed, 19 May 2004 15:29:47 -0600, ray kirjoitti:

> On Wed, 19 May 2004 12:05:43 +0000, WareKala wrote:
>
>> I have been lurking on alt.linux for some time, and I
>> have seen alot of folk complaining about Linux.
>> It's just really beginning to annoy me. Yes, Linux can
>> be a bit difficult for newcomers and Windoze-users to
>> set up properly, and for example driver installation
>> is not as easy as in Windoze. There are also many
>> non-consistent things, depending on which desktop
>> environment one chooses to use, but so what? If you
>> can't set up Linux up properly, you still don't have to
>> say Linux sucks, doesn't work or such! Ask for help, or
>> just revert back to what you used before. Simple as
>> that. I myself have been using Linux since -96,
>> converted already my little bro to use it too. I also
>> have some trouble at times, for example when I bought
>> a new digital camera. But after I had it set up
>> properly, it worked even better than under Windoze!
>> Oh, and I noticed someone complaining about sluggishness.
>> Well, I assume he meant sluggishness in X. The problem
>> probably is just that he didn't use the right driver for
>> his graphics card. Just have to mention that I watch
>> movies, I play games, I have a web-server and so forth..
>>
>> Just, if you are not ready for Linux, don't blame it for
>> that!
>> -WareKala
>
> I share your sentiments. A couple of things worth noting: 'driver
> installation is not as easy as in MS', but you don't have to install
> nearly as many drivers - cameras and other usb storage devices being a
> case in point. Sluggishness in X often is due to using a heavy window
> manager like KDE or Gnome - can work a lot faster with XFCE or such.
Yepp, if all the included drivers built in kernel are compiled and
installed, it'll most likely use them immediately when you just plug your
device to the computer, but when there are no default drivers for the
device, you'll have to find and install them. That's a major obstacle for
most as it's not very easy to do for everyone. Even installing nVidia
drivers for X is too difficult for some. I know such people =P But err,
Gnome 2.6 and KDE 3.x are actually quite fast, they don't cause the
sluggishness. The biggest problem is the X server itself. You can just do
a quick google or check their mailinglists. The X server is so old design
that it's just not really up to expectations anymore. There are some
projects which are attempting to replace X, but I haven't tried those.
Well, the XFree86 project developers discussed these things in their
latest meeting and decided about alot of thing. I just hope they get
something done soon, too.
 -WareKala

Ps. Haven't tried XFCE, is it any good?

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