Re: Kind of hard, really

From: Walter Mautner (nownews.10.eatallspam_at_spamgourmet.com)
Date: 08/12/04


Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:34:39 +0200

Charles wrote:

> I use Unix-based operating systems with alternative browsers (Opera or
> Firefox sometimes) and OpenOffice.org.
> I don't want to use Windows with Internet Explorer. However there are
> web sites that I absolutely have to access for my job, such as for
> declaration of revenues, suppliers stock, creation of accounts for
> companies, money transfers through the Internet, and so forth.
> All of these government, bank or company web sites use DHTML, and
> they're unaccessible if I use an alternative browser (even identifying
> as MSIE on Opera). I have to do the job at home at night where I have a
> dual-boot computer with WinXP and IE.

If there is no other chance (forging IE from mozilla or whatever else) to
get to such sites you need at work, invest the small amount of money and
time to install crossover office. IE6 does run reasonably within that, as
well as microsoft office (2K, XP).
However, it's still a crutch ...

> This prevents many people from liberation from Microsoft. How can we
> find a solution? (Don't tell me go ahead and tell the government to
> re-design their websites)

If enough people do so, why not? Recently IE has proven to be such a big
security leak, that even lot of windows users prefer some alternative.

> Most of my job is done through a browser. If I can't pass through the
> home page of my bank, I can't do my job. Once I got a message that said
> the web site was only for IE users - I had to identify as MSIE.
>
Is "my bank" your private or work-related? If private, go ahead and change.
Conditions are almost similar nowadays, and there are banks with useable
web/telebanking interfaces that can be accessed by linux/java or whatever.

> Not to mention all the times I got .doc documents from work colleagues,
> that OpenOffice won't display the content properly. This is a lack of
> productivity, and after all, is it worth it?
> What do you think?
>
Well, word by itself is known to reformat whole big documents to a big mess,
if you just change the printer (or open the doc at a different computer
with another printer attached). There are also differences in formatting
depending upon the installed fonts here and there, and different
windows/office versions. You and your coworkers have to live with that, or
use LaTex/postscript docs.

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