Re: Making linux more user friendly
From: Walter Mautner (newsleaf.20.eatallspam_at_spamgourmet.com)
Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 21:26:25 +0200
Brian white wrote:
> Before anybody blows a fuse and writes something truly stupid and
> offensive in reply, please read to the end.
> We all know that linux does not always work with all the hardware on a
> computer so why not probe it from the net first? (Just like the antivirus
> companys do in windows). knoppix does something like that from the cd.
> If there are going to be hardware issues, recommend a change of graphics
> or sound card or webcam or whatever.
Sounds interesting in the first place, but that would require a program
downloaded to your computer (while probably still running windows) to start
the in-place-detection and interact with the server. Looks like asking for
trouble with activeX or similar stuff.
> Then a distro just for that computer and its user requirements can be made
> and shipped to that user with almost 100% certainty that it will work well
> and as fast as possible on that particular computer.
More exactly, a common distribution kernel already contains every module
from sis, via, intel chipsets, old 3com NIC cards to gigabit interfaces,
no-name ac97 onboard sound up to turtlebeach, and the kitchensink. Much
more than is available with a barebone windows install which asks for a
mainboard driver cd, and for drivers for almost every new part you put in.
So what more do you want?
> Now, about webcams and instant messaging,
> I started a thread looking for normal IM functionality on linux
> (inclucing webcam support of course).
Well, there is gnomemeeting. They tried to be compatible to windows
netmeeting, and adhere to H.323 and other standards .... but guess who
changed the protocol?
> And a rude yob gave the reply below.
> It is not acceptable. PERIOD
It is maybe not accaptable for you - but then, the developers probably have
better things to do. Linux is primarly made for productivity and
creativity, not so much for gaming and chatting. Since you don't pay a
developer, you cannot expect _anything_ special for you.
Most linux people are not eager to show their hangover faces after a night
of heavy-duty programming, on a webcam ;-).
> I wish to speak to his employer about his attitude, so, if any of you know
> more, please contact me. And if you know him, in the linux community,
> please tell him what a disservice he does to his cause.
Now cool down. It's your free time, and also his. Nothing to do with work.
You actually can be glad noone else is taking you on the shovel. Please get
a clue and read some of the nice messages in alt.flame*.
> I sent my relatives halfway across the world a webcam and i cannot
> communicate with them through it because i use linux. That is a stupid
Noone urges you to use linux. Or at least not all the time. Dualboot if
necessary. And don't use the webcam all day long. Noone wants to see your
early morning face, believe me. Maybe not even when you are washed and
shaved and combed, but angry or disgusted.
> situation. As long as linux has this glaring hole in its armour, it will
> never be accepted by young people as a real operating system.
What gives. I am 50.
> I worked with young guys half my age and they laughed at my unix yahoo
> messanger (no webcam support) and my kopete (no webcam support) typing to
> their msn (until msn changed protocols)
> Thats just the way it is. Build IM with webcam for linux of forget the
Get a real life. Go outside. Meet real people. Forget about small blurred
and scattered picture fragments. Or get lost and addicted to cyberspace.
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