Re: Is there a messenger service out there?

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Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 18:16:19 +0200

Brian white wrote:
> I do buy CD versions of the operating system!
So? out of curiosity, how much did you pay?

Let me get this straight. because $vendor packages, ships and sells
various GPL/BSD/Other free licensed packages and take payment for that,
-EVERY- upstream source should obey your command?
if that is your perception, I suggest you buy an exclusive AIX support
contract at IBM. (hint: it won't be as cheap as ordering a 20$ distro set).

did you pay every Open source developer outthere? even those handling
IM-programs like gaim, kopete and the likes? stop whining and fund those
instead if you're that eager getting relatively(in the eye of the
beholder) useless features.
Regardless of choice - this is not a linux issue - it's a
driver/manufacturer/proprietary protocol/IP issue.

> I would like to be able to order a complete linux computer system with
> camera, microphone and messaging included and all of which interoperates
> with someone who uses windows. NO hardware issues!
Well, start griping at hardware vendors.
start griping at people who use proprietary protocols because it hinders
other systems (by ways of delegated control, protocol changes, etc). a
perfect example could be: msn messenger.

Or refuse to have anything to do with proprietary systems, where
corporations have control of protocol, services, servers etc.

> I was a bit disgusted recently when audacity (which I have had for a couple
> of years) was working perfectly on my X ladyfriends system under windows
> and has never worked for me in linux! What gives? It comes on the cd and
> installs automatically in linux, but only problem is it doesnt work!
*snore* *yawn* RTFM.

> In windows, you download it, install it yourself and it works.
> No messin with the computer. Same with my wacom tablet. It works perfectly
> with my knoppix CD but I have to independently install 5 or 6 bits of
> software to get it to work in mandrake. And mandrake is the easy one!
> I am not up to this!
> Linux is still not (dispite a worldwide effort) at the usability standard of
Meh? which worldwide effort? the one you're running? as of yet, it's not
really that efficient. Griping that proprietary/closed standards/source
software/protocols aren't working isn't likely to get get on the
priority list.

> win 98 and that is terrible. If I wasnt a zealot, I would not use it.
You realize that zealots are annoying, regardless of deity. right?

> I use it because it is so reliable and because if people like me do not use
> it, it will die. But the lack of instant messaging with sound and video is
I dare you. abandon it, and watch it wither. Claiming that you are the
sole reason an OS survives is rather...... self-righteous, isn't it?

> a glaring and incredible oversight.
> Can you call legitimately call it an operating system without these
> features? It is like a car without lights.
Yes it is.
By that comparison, one is tempted to ask:
How can you call that a human? is it a human if it doesn't have a brain?

> Surely, red hat or novel can afford a server for linux messagers?
probably? why should they?

> And a cross platform mesanger to allow their users to talk to windows users?
Why would they? by succumbing to the proprietary protocols they're not
changing market shares. what you want is others to use OPEN
PROTOCOLS/STANDARDS SYSTEMS - CATCH THE HINT.

> I sent my relatives in ireland a digital camera 3 years ago so I could
> message with them and I still await the day when I can do it in linux!
> I bet open source solaris will have this.
We care? why aren't you asking them then.

Don't confuse sitting around on your arse, waiting for it to
automagically work to fix it. - see previous statement about human
classification and brain functionality.

begone with your endless, pointless, annoying, misguided IM rants.

/Tommi

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