Re: Laptop Question



On Mar 19, 3:35 pm, "Stuart Miller" <stuart_mil...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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I am going to buy a laptop in near future. As you can imagine I am a
linux user, so I would like to buy a linux friendly laptop.

Smart move

Thanks :) I moved to linux around 2002, or 2003. I have windows's
hardware.. My sound card, modem did not work. These days I check b4 I
buy.

Yesterday, I went to a computer retail store, and I was going to buy
Toshiba Laptop Dual Core. Salesman told me that laptop doesn't come
with operating sytem nor driver! I would need to be an extera $100
dollar for it.

Most unusual. This is the first I have heard of Toshiba bypassing the
Microsoft tax.

The ad says that Vista basic is included.
See comment at bottom of my reply

Yes, this is why I was so surprise. So, I called Future Shope (the on
Young St. & Dundas). IT tech just told me that Laptop does come with
Windows Vista, however, they are not giving Operating System's Cd, nor
drivers' on a disk... I need the drivers, and OS disk b/c I would to
dual boot it. which means I would partition the hard drive into three
or even four. I need Windows for my college application.




I have never a bought a readymade computer. I always assume built
computer comes with CD drivers, and all the software and operating
system installed in it.

The usual licencing agreement forced on manufacturers by MS requires a
licence for each machine manufactured, even if user does not want Vista.



Am I wrong?

Perhaps....

PS: I was going to buy Toshiba Laptop; this is the link
http://tiny.cc/aYh2a
Toshiba Satellite Intel Core 2 Duo T5450 1.66GHz Laptop (A200-FT1) -
Future Shop Exclusive

These days, you do not get a windows cd with the computer. Instead, the
windows approved image is on a hidden partition on the hard drive. This is
fine if you need to reinstall, but is bad news if your hard drive fails.

This is not good... I have a habit of reinstalled Linux, and Windows
OS, time to time.. I rather they gave me drivers, and Windows OS on a
CD or DVD...


I have an Acer 5101, and it uses this method. I shrank the partition and
installed mandriva 2007 in the free pace at the end of the drive. Worked
perfectly - even the wireless configured itself properly.

I still have XP for when I need it, but I can use linux in unsecured hot
spots with very little risk or worry.

I don't know the 'retail' value of vista home basic, but I understand (and
could be way wrong on this) that the manufacturers only pay about $30 for a
licence, so that is the maximum you could expect to have taken off the
retail price to buy it without vista ( if that is even possible)

A caution about Future Shop - I buy a fair bit of stuff from them, but I
have found that the salesmen are somewhat less than fully informed about
their products.

Stuart

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