Re: Disappointed with Ubuntu.



On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 01:33:29 -0500, Day Brown wrote:

F8BOE wrote:
<<<<<< TROLL MODE ON
I think it's time for you to return to window$... or read a little bit
about computer hardware and learn to google around.

It seems that you never heard about automatic logging in Unix, nor file
right management. But it's not too late to learn.
TROLL MODE OFF
I got a comp sci minor in 1971; have been fooling with keyboards since
six bit. and was doing post grad work at RIT in Rochester when the PC
came out. Been online for 25 years or so, and very quickly became
informed by other programmers what Microsoft was doing. I switched to
Compaq DOS 3.31, the DR-DOS 5, and have NEVER HAD WINDOWS ON MY OWN
DESKTOP.

I didn't think anyone was doing computer science in 1971. At any rate I
ceratinly don't recall any computer science classes at Arizona State as
late as 1974. DR-DOS was indeed significantly better than msdos.


OK? I have had the temerity to criticize a distro, but that dont make me
a windoze user, altho I guess you see lotsa that.

Too bad that it's not possible to pack a hole distro on only one CD.
Installing K/X/Ubuntu 8.04 from a CD is as installing Debian from the 5
floppies.
What I would prefer to see is a downloadable .iso that only had enuf on
it get online to the distro host, and there let the host and the client
go thru an exchange of what hardware was there, and just download the
drivers needed for that particular platform. then let the user select
just those apps he wants to download and install them.

That is pretty much the way a Gentoo install works. You can even do it
from another distro without an iso. But basically, you build it from the
ground up and only install what you want (of course, dependencies must
still be met). It is then compiled for you from source - giving you the
opportunity to optimize for your particular hardware. I use Gentoo, fully
optimized, on my mini-itx - 1GHZ VIA C3.


This is the way it still works with FREEDOS and DRDOS. Moreover, you can
download the latest version of either, and it ONLY replaces the kernel,
and leaves all your other apps and data where they were on the drive.

Network support is of course lacking, but this is for a terminal desktop
for the single user. Which is what I have. But such a distro would
result in a lot less clutter. I have seen distro installs that saw I
already had Linux on the drive and asked if I wanted to just install the
new version, but then went ahead and wiped out the drive anyway.

As you use Xandros sucessfully, you should keep it or try to install a
multiple CD/DVD distro such as MDV 2008.1 or OpenSuSE 11.0. The Debian
DVD should do it right too...
I've got Suse 10 or 11, but there were problems with the mthbd I had at
the time; mite go back and try it again. When I found out that Ubuntu
was also debian based, as is Xandros, I thot there'd be an easier fit,
but didnt realize it came with gnome rather than kde.

But I'll futz around with gnome a bit longer to see if I can get used to
it and make it run my wireless modem. I've a dozen or so distros, but
Xandros is the one that seems to run everything, the only exception so
far was the newer versions didnt run my UW SCSI, but bigger faster IDE
drives are cheaper now anyway.

.



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