Re: Have they finally fixed Fedora Core 1

From: Max O. (maxo_at_NOSPAMhome.se)
Date: 02/27/04 

Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 19:17:44 GMT

Google Mike wrote:
> "Max O." <maxo@NOSPAMhome.se> wrote in message
>
>>Hi guys, I just installed Core 1 and the rpm handling is totally fubared
>>as everyone knows. Installing the updated redhat-config-packages rpm
>>didn't help a lick, I can't install packages from my distro disks with
>>the included interface, it doesn't recognize them. Asks for them, I
>>insert them, and well, it just doesn't work.
>>
>>Pretty embarassing--That's a very crucial part of the distribution. I'd
>>be really pissed if the rest of the distro wasn't so nice and solid--hey
>>I know it's a permanent beta, but the package manager! Oh for the love
>>of ....;)
>>
>>I'm familiar enough with the packages I needed that navigating the CDs
>>and installing with the old familiar "rpm -ivh *.rpm" is just fine--what
>>I do like is being able to view the contents of the rpm before I install
>>it like the Mandrake software manager lets you do--also Kpackage has
>>this ability. The RH package manager, even when fixed is a pile of
>>dung--overly simplified to the point of stupidity.
>>
>>At any rate, I went the apt rout and installed symantic as the GUI front
>>end. Slightly buggy, but pretty much like what I had and loved with
>>mandrake--the urpmi-drake routine. I highly recommend it. It's better
>>than urpmi in some ways, it seems to handle remote sources better,
>>though urpmi can let you add local sources, disc and HDD which is quite
>>handy for us dial up hosers.
>>
>>I would have stayed with Mandrake, and may go back, but although I think
>>their administrative tools are a much nicer (feeling at least :)), it
>>always seems that something severe is borked with either KDE or Gnome.
>>Fedora just works---well after a few hours of installing that legally
>>questionable stuff like mp3 decoders...Oy!
>>
>>/rant :P
>
>
> Can I ask where you got your copy of Fedora? Did you get it direct
> from the Fedora website hosted at RedHat, or did you get it from
> somewhere else? If you got it from somewhere else, then it might be
> that the Fedora website version is more current. Evidently, just
> because all the distros say Core 1, that's the major revision. There
> are evidently minor revisions being made and being posted out there.
>
> Meanwhile, just note that Core 2 is being worked on and should be out
> shortly.
>
> Anyway, if you got it from RH Fedora website itself -- shame on them
> for not having this Add/Remove Packages thing fixed yet without us
> having to edit the Python files manually!!!
>
> This is one more reason why I'm still calling Fedora as "Bug Hat".

I'm a dial up loser, and grabbed a copy of Janary's LinuxUser on a whim,
it had Fedora cover discs, a whole set, which beats downloading and
burning--even if one had broadband. So I'd blame LinuxUser--though I've
updated the offending packages and it's still borked--I edited the
python too. Grrr ;) Like I said, the package manager is a POS even when
fixed.

I may checkout the new fedora when it comes out, though I'll probably
just apt-get me a 2.6 kernel, and I've got KDE3.2 slowly trickling in in
a wget background terminal.

Fedora is more stable than Mandrake, but it has no Frenchy sense of
style, hell, even the Teutonic masters at Suse add a little "schwing" to
their distro. Fedora looks like a corporate veneer designed by lentil
salad eating hippies :)

I'm not recommending it to any newbies, they should go with French or
German flavours ;P But, if you know kind of what you're doing, it
doesn't really matter all that much what flavour you use, eh?

Fedora is the first distro to let me shut down my box using acpi! Added
the line to grub and it saves me having to press the power button. Quite
brilliant :P