Re: Linux - a quandary!
From: Tim (tim_at_mail.localhost.invalid)
Date: 01/16/05
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Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 17:58:54 +1030
aq <njl@localhost.localdomain> posted:
> People always seem pretty obsessed with upgrading to the latest and
> greatest version of their distro in spite of the fact that everything
> works. It is nice to have the snazzy new interface or the new artwork and
> to know that under the bonnet you've got the newest software but
> seriously, was there any _real_ need to upgrade?
I still have Win98SE on one machine, because it does what I need it to do.
I still have an old Amiga running, because it does what I want. But while
playing with Linux, I do discover that many of the updates are for security
reasons, and they dry up pretty quickly with older releases. Granted that
many of the updates are to fix privelege violations that just aren't
applicable to the remote connection attempts we generally experience, but
there are some remote exploits that can get you through viewing webpages
(not many on Linux, but some).
And then if there's some application that you want, it's probably only
available for newer releases. On this score alone, it's probably the one
thing that makes you update when you don't really want to bother.
Tim wrote:
>> I had noticed that Fedora Core 3 seems to be a step backwards in a few
>> regards too. Scanning isn't working like it should do, like it used to.
>> Video display isn't, either. Though printing was working better (in the
>> sense that it found the network printer all by itself, and it worked
>> without me having to do anything).
> I did have problems with my upgrade from FC2 to FC3 although i think that
> was mainly because of the extra rpm's i'd installed and some software i'd
> compiled out of .tgz packages. Upgrading a fedora distro to the next new
> release seems quite hard to me and i think this may stem from the fact
> that some desireable features are missing (due to patents with mp3 for
> example) from the install disks and therefore even a fresh install
> requires some configuration, an upgrade can't be any better.
In my case, I've always avoided over-the-top installs. I've got more than
one drive, so it's always made sense to install to the other drive, and
transfer data over (or keep data on a central server).
>> There's too much reinventing of the wheel from one Red Hat release to
>> the next, and with Fedora the releases are too close together. Stop
>> redesigning the system, get that right once, and just fiddle with the
>> applications that go with it!
> In defence of Fedora (yes, i'd call myself a seasoned redhat/fedora
> user and advocate) the differences between core 3 and core 2 are
> quite large, the actual implementation of SElinux and udev for examples,
> which both seem like pretty major revisions in the way linux works
> nowadays and are not limited to fedora. Also, if no-one ever made major
> changes (note the _major_ release number change) then things simply would
> not progress or atleast not at the rate that fedora does.
I've only played with Linux for about a couple of years now. I've found
all the different releases I've tried (only Red Hat, I haven't got anything
else to install), far too radically different between each other (7.0
through to Core 3). It takes you quite some time to learn the tricks of
particular distros, then they change them all on the next one, and outdate
the old one forcing you onto the new one, too fast. Of course, the
documentation written by other people is for the older systems.
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